Posts by Heaven

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"back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

by purrpurr in

a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

their response was quite amazing.

they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

Heaven

LoveUni - "If the JWs admit they have a problem with child abuse in the organisation, there might be a chance they could fix it..."

Vidiot said: Never gonna happen.

Vidiot is correct. Watchtower is not going to veer from the Patriarchal model as outlined in the Bible because the ones in power in the Borg would lose said power. It would also prop up the increasing discord that Jehovah really isn't directly involved with this Religion, that it really is NOT his chosen organization on Earth.

I made the following 2 images.

The 1st one is from a post Outlaw made back when the ARC was on. In this image the gentleman on the left is the Honourable Justice Peter McClellan AM, Chair of the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse and Judge of Appeal in New South Wales. Geoffrey Jackass Jackson is on the right.

The 2nd is my own creation based on something Angus Stewart said during the Arc:

Botchtower is not going to stand down the male power model, isolation, and repressive sexual norms they have instituted because they claim they would be violating God's sanctioned setup in the Bible. They will only change when they are forced to do it legally.

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Did the flood happen?

by BlackWolf in

so we were talking about noah for our family worship tonight and it ended with a little debate between me and my parents about how the flood was possible.

you know, where did the water come from, how did all the animals fit, etc.

of course it led nowhere and my parents came up with some strange theories like that there was "an expanse of water in the sky" and that's where all the water came from.

Heaven

Vidiot said: Holy f**k, these guys were just pulling stuff out of their collective asses that far back?!

They've really been doing this since inception. The 'Jesus returned invisibly' crap is from way back in the early 1900s. I don't know if this is still on JWN but we've done a number of memes over the years. This one has always been a good one:

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"You will never grow old in this present system of things" -- some campaign tools

by FatFreek 2005 in

i am approaching 76 years old.

i can clearly recall that awake!

statement and similar during the pre-1975 hype -- "staying alive in '75", et al.

Heaven

My cousin's girl got married in 2005. My elderly JW aunt (my cousin's girl's grandmother) was there and said to me "I can't believe I got old. This wasn't supposed to happen."

Back in 2010 my Dad said to me that he didn't want to die. I told him I didn't want him to either but that is what happens. No one in the history of mankind has ever not died .... not even Jesus. We all have to die sometime.

What I discovered in my research on natural systems is that death is necessary for life. It is a part of the life cycle on Earth. Without death, there would be no life here. And we homo sapiens, aka human beings, are not separate from this system even though Religion wishes we were. This was very jaw dropping for me. Another case of the evidence, and of reality, flying in the face of delusional, wishful thinkers who have mislead millions of people.

Many JWs and those raised but not baptised JW held off having children because of the imminence of Armageddon. Many including one of my JW cousins who said she would have them once everything was a paradise Earth, Satan was done away with for good, and there was no more threat of Armageddon. This all comes on the heals of a belief that if you are a good JW, you won't ever die. Many also didn't go to school because why would you need to? Armageddon is so close. Paradise Earth looms before us. My Mom even said to me and my younger brother you can't go to College and you won't need careers as Armageddon is so close. That was after the failure of Armageddon to arrive in 1975. My younger bro and I ignored this and went to College. We are so glad we did. I guarantee my retirement is far closer than Armageddon ever will be.

It amazes me that Religion is allowed to operate with such fraudulent claims. No other company or organization would get away with peddling a product or service that never stands up to it's claims. Religion truly is legalized fraud.

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AUSTRALIA: Jehovah's Witness paedophile back working with children at family's church - August 22, 2016 - The Age newspaper

by jwleaks in

jehovah's witness paedophile back working with children at family's church.

the age newspaper.

reporter: chris johnston.

Heaven

Pedophiles have a very high rate of re-offense. They should NOT be allowed to be around children. Period. The Jehovah's Witness religion is truly one that encourages abuse.

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Happy Mother's Day - never would have happened in JW land

by Zoos in

i'm a huge fan of the canadian tenors.

[google them..... you will melt].

saw this video and realized, this would never happen injw land.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aypgut4te2k.

Heaven

wannaexit said: Anything that is beautiful is turned in the ugly by the watchtower.

I was thinking the same thing. I was never baptized and I didn't play by Botchtower's games. I always called my Mom on Mother's Day. She would feign 'oh we don't celebrate that' but I know she loved it. Ha! F!ck you Watchtower.

Zoos, thank you for sharing that video. It is beautiful and those guys have awesome voices. To give them that amount of joy, is what we as human beings should constantly be doing with each other.

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People hate God?

by looter in

jw
friends

it is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.

like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.

i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.

Heaven

Looter, why do you love the creator of evil? Are you a psychopath?

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People hate God?

by looter in

jw
friends

it is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.

like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.

i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.

Heaven

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I need help, I'm falling in love with a JW girl

by nebula-- in

so i met her at my last job that i worked & we started off as friends.

i didn't know her faith at the time & i honestly couldn't have cared less, seeing as i'm agnostic.

after about a year, i began developing emotions for her & sure enough, we ended up dating for a little while.

Heaven

Do you know what it means to be a JW? Do your research. Because that's what you're going to have to be in order to have this girl. If she says no you don't have to be, then be prepared to be hounded your entire life by her as well as others to join.

No blood transfusions if your child is born a blue baby, or your wife is bleeding out in childbirth or any of you are in a bad car accident and need blood or you develop some condition that requires blood products.

No Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Birthdays, Cinqo de Mayo, etc, etc.

Spending most of your free time attending conventions, assemblies, meetings, and going door to door in field serve-us. They are discouraging 'the sisters' not to marry unless the men are a Ministerial Servant or an Elder so be prepared to reach for these 'privileges' (aka work more for them for free).

Shunning disfellowshipped JWs including family and not having much to do with non-JW family.

Unquestioning loyalty to an organization with a flawed set of doctrines.

Have you researched the origins of the Bible? That might also be a wise idea.

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Bro. Schroeder dies

by bythesea in

jw
friends

i just received this news from a bro who has connections in bethel.... .

bro albert d schroeder died at 10:30 am new york time today at brooklyn bethel...he was 94 yrs old.. he was born on april 7, 1911 in saginaw, michigan and entered bethel service in 1932. he was appointed a member of the governing body on december 18, 1974. bro schroeder's life story appeared in the march 1, '88 wt pages 10-17: entitled: "my life in jehovah's spirit-directed organization.".

i don't know if the "today" means it was actually today...as i can't be sure when my friend received this news... but anyway, another of the old guys bites the dust.. .

Heaven

This guy has been dead for 10 years. And STILL, Armageddon has not arrived.

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The Atheist Delusion

by looter in

jw
friends

atheist delusion.

just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.

the video was actually an advertisement on here.

Heaven

Ironically, much of what looter posts is delusional.