Posts by Heaven

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A lie and contradiction in the Sophia Anti-Gay Cartoon

by Listener in

i've been noticing a big problem with their basic teaching lately.in the sophia anti-gay video, sophia says"but i want everyone to get to paradise"her mother's reply is"so does jehovah"they used to say that one of their most important commissions was the gathering of the anointed ones.

however, this was no longer necessary with their teaching that the anointed had been sealed by the 1930s and from that time there would only be replacements (taken from the other sheep).. w85 7/1a most important development on earth during these last days has been the gathering and sealing of anointed ones.

(revelation 7:3) while seeing that this is done, however, jehovah has brought the other sheep into association with them in a restored spiritual land.

Heaven

Gay people won't be part of the JW Earthly Paradise nor would they ever be considered an annointed one. They are 'abominations' and make Jehovah sad. Hemophiliacs aren't going to make it either. They have to use blood products to stay alive. This also makes Jehovah sad.

So much for 'everyone' having a chance. Also, not everyone is being preached to so not everyone knows about JWs. The math just doesn't add up. Never has, never will. There aren't enough JWs to accomplish this. And those that have received their 'message' and reject their wack-a-doodle ideals, also make Jehovah sad and won't make it either.

Religion is oppressive, isolationist, and abusive.

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

jw
friends

does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

Heaven

Once I discovered the complete sham this religion is, my nightmares and the demons all disappeared.

This stuff is all a figment of the human imagination. Stop believing, thinking, and dwelling on them and ... Poof!... they disappear.

Our knowledge has far surpassed the need for Bronze and Iron Age Middle Eastern desert dwellers' mythology and superstitions to explain our world.

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Mouthy has Passed Away

by Simon in

jw
friends

update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

Heaven

Grace is about the same age as my Dad and shares the same name as my Grandmother. She has seen and experienced many things in her life, including the war. Her pain, particularly the emotional pain that Botchtower caused her, is now over. She is missed.

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Today's Text - You MUST Love Jehovah!

by Divergent in

jw
friends

thursday, september 1. you must love jehovah your god.—matt.

22:37.. if you have a loving relationship with jehovah, you will be a ‘doer of the word, not a hearer only.’ (jas.

1:22-25) a “doer” has faith that produces such works as zealous preaching activity and participation in christian meetings.

Heaven

The creator of evil deserves nothing but loathing.

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Reading The Bible Again After Leaving

by pale.emperor in

at the moment i dont beleive in anything.

im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.

but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.

Heaven

Vidiot said:
@ Heaven...
Did you see the thing (on TV or the net, can't remember which), where a guy put a Quran cover over a Bible, and started showing people the somewhat less-than-appealing Bible passages (I'm sure you can guess which).

Hey Vidiot, yes I have seen that or at least one version. It certainly illustrates many peoples' ignorance of the violence and abuse in the Bible. I think this was it?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jErLx1L1CWs

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Reading The Bible Again After Leaving

by pale.emperor in

at the moment i dont beleive in anything.

im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.

but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.

Heaven

Many Christians haven't even read the Bible. Bart Erhman found that with his students. Funny that the supposedly most important book to any Christian, the Bible, hasn't even been read by them. I showed a few choice scriptures to one of my Catholic friends. They were shocked. We are all maneuvered through the Bible by the religious authorities to prop up their agenda. It is a book that can be used for immeasurable good... and immeasurable harm.

Zappa ... excellent list. I am making a copy for my own reference. Thank you. And baker... those scriptures in Judges are sick. You can see how fundamentalist Middle Eastern desert dwellers continue today with these ideals.

Many an atheist has resulted from reading the Christian Holy Bible.

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What are the chances of having a one on one with GB member

by Chook in

jesus drifted amongst the lowly folk .

Heaven

Why would you want to meet with any of these jerks?

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Can you prove that our entire universe and existence is not a computer simulation?

by EndofMysteries in

if you were a computer programmer and you were to create a simulated automated world, that would constantly evolve and self run after initial designs.

first you would have to code the rules, laws, and core elements of this world.

while this is being coded, the program is not run yet, so none of it exists.

Heaven

HX

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Can you prove that our entire universe and existence is not a computer simulation?

by EndofMysteries in

if you were a computer programmer and you were to create a simulated automated world, that would constantly evolve and self run after initial designs.

first you would have to code the rules, laws, and core elements of this world.

while this is being coded, the program is not run yet, so none of it exists.

Heaven

I have yet to receive an error code like a 404 when I can't find something.

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Did the flood happen?

by BlackWolf in

so we were talking about noah for our family worship tonight and it ended with a little debate between me and my parents about how the flood was possible.

you know, where did the water come from, how did all the animals fit, etc.

of course it led nowhere and my parents came up with some strange theories like that there was "an expanse of water in the sky" and that's where all the water came from.

Heaven

Many born-ins see the bull shite very quickly. Young minds can and do detect the Borg's crap. Many of us just have to/had to wait it out as we are captives due to our minor (aka underage) status.

Another piece of evidence, or the lack thereof that shoots down the global flood myth is illustrated in the image below. It's along the same lines as the lack of evidence for the Exodus. Where is the debris trail?

The kangaroos would have also had to swim quite a distance in the sea to reach Australia. Seriously, the Biblical flood story is about instilling fear of Yahweh's mite into us mere mortals. Remember, Jewish people are very good at bull sh!t.