Probably because he was the Canaanite god of war... which doesn't exactly fit with the new Christian god of love Jesus.
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43Why Is YHWH Used Regularly In OT and NEVER in NT?
by minimus inand if the name jehovah is that important why is it that jesus christ never use that name in a record of scriptures?.
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Memorial 2017
by wifibandit ininstead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.
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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.
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Evidently, there will be no lawn mowers in the Paradise Earth.
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Something funny about Armageddon
by evilApostate inyears ago, when i was still a publisher, i had a very interesting conversation with a lady in the field service.
we were talking about punishment for sin and so on.
she believed in hellfire.
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Hi ya evilApostate... there are other flaws in the logic as well such as...
Homo sapien has been on Earth for some 250,000 years. There are many people who have lived on this Earth well before a guy named Jesus of Nazareth was ever born. None of those people ever heard of him nor were they ever 're-born'. Christianity wasn't even invented at that time. We are still discovering indigenous tribal peoples on Earth that no one knew ever existed. So as you said, there are people living on Earth today that have never heard of him. Their ancestors never heard of him and their future offspring will never hear of him either.
When I was a teenager I figured out that the mathematics just does not hold up for JWs to be able to be the ones to accomplish preaching the good news to all the inhabited Earth, particularly with the door-to-door ministry, nor via their website. There are people who live in parts of this Earth today that don't know what a computer or smartphone or tablet is, let alone the internet. And 7 million JWs cannot possibly preach to 7-8 billion people, much less keep up with the birth rate on this planet.
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New Religion where to look?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone found any religion that makes more sense than the watchtower organization?
obviously catholics make even less sense than them so don't say that.... the reason i ask is because i still believe the bible is the word of god, but just that the jw's have twisted it for their own benefit, as most religions seem to do....
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Instead of wasting your time on something based on mythology presented as factually true, why not create something based on the real world? Maybe grow a garden. Perhaps help feed less fortunate people with said garden. I think you might find it immensely more rewarding.
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"It's a cult, mom."
by schnell inmy mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.
even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.
maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".
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schnell, we have to tell them. Yes, it might be as subtle as a brick up side the head, but those words need to be spoken. Good for you.
Back in 2011, I told my Dad that any organization that does not allow it's members to have anything to do with their friends and family that refuse to join said organization is a cult. He didn't like it but had no rebuttal... just the annoyed, pursed lips, the silence, and the deer-in-the-headlights look.
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"Satan Did It!" -- Comparative Religion and Religion
by schnell init's been said that as early christians went to preach about christ and his virgin birth, his tests, miracles, death, resurrection, and divine pedigree, the people they were preaching to would essentially say, "oh yeah, we have that too!
it's almost a cliche to point out that mary and jesus resemble isis and horus, that gautama faced his tests as well, that heracles is the son of zeus and a mortal woman named alcmene.
but when this is pointed out, suddenly an intelligent design argument appears to explain it.
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Satan is a construct and a scapegoat to explain 'evil' and how the ancients and present day believers explain why bad things happen.
In Hebrew, the term is related to an Aramaic verb that means “to lie in wait,” “to oppose,” or “to set oneself in opposition to.” As a separate 'person' or being, he is not part of the Pagan belief system. Good and bad lie within all people. In the old testament, it is Yahweh who created evil (see KJV Isaiah 45:7). God was all things to the Hebrews. But Christianity was troubled by this logic. Loving does not equal evil. So Christianity adapted this by creating a separate being. They gave evil person-hood and elevated its importance by giving it a proper name - Satan, God's special but fallen angel. There... it's no longer 'our' responsibility. 'The Devil made me do it!'
I think it is essential for all believers to, first off, actually read the entire Bible. Many have not. This exercise alone has made many a believer an atheist.
Then research the history and origins of the Bible including the pre-Judaism beliefs. The Bible is not a book like we think of a book. It is a compilation of stories spanning 1500 to 2000 years. The "Egyptian Book of the Dead" was written before this and contains many similarities to the Jesus myth. I find Christianity to be an adoption and adaptation of previous beliefs. Bart Ehrman's research points out we do not have the original writings of the Bible. And, as you said, the authors of the gospels never met Jesus (actually, none of the authors of the Bible met Jesus). Their accounts are from oral stories passed down over decades even centuries later. What happens to stories handled this way? They change.
Put yourself in the position of the early Christians. How can they gain membership? Well our God is better than all the other gods. Exaggerations of Jesus' power crept in. And the elevation of him to a god occurred. They made him better than Yahweh, more loving and somewhat accepting of all because well, Yahweh was really a douche bag.
But when people didn't buy in at first, the early Christians physically tortured people who would not convert. Later, after that wasn't exactly effective, they decided to tell people if they don't sign up they will be judged upon their death and if found unworthy, tortured for all eternity in a burning lake of fire. Why is it religion has to keep sliding back to the ugliness of threats and hurting people to prop up their agenda? (As a side note, there are still polytheists in the world today. Hindus and Pagans do still exist. The early Christians were unsuccessful in wiping out 'the heathens'.)
So once you know all this (and there is much more I could state but won't for the interest of some brevity), you can't unknow it. And you come to a fork in the road - do you continue with the somewhat easy, but ultimately useless, delusional path of belief/faith or do you decide to follow the more difficult, logical, rational, fact-based, intellectually honest path. I think every believer comes to this point sooner or later.schnell said: * As I wrote in another thread, I personally do believe there was a historical Jesus. However, I don't believe all that has been attributed to him, or in the integrity of the Bible.
Erhman agrees with you. He states Paul's letters are a kind of proof of Jesus' existence. He also states that Jesus was an apocalyptic Jewish preacher who thought God was going to fix all the world's problems in his lifetime. Sound familiar? I often like to think if Jesus of Nazareth were alive today, how many of us would consider him to be a religious nut bag?
To paraphrase Hitchens "Ask yourself the following question... What is more likely? That the laws of nature and the Universe have been suspended or that an unmarried Jewish girl told a fib?"
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New Religion where to look?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone found any religion that makes more sense than the watchtower organization?
obviously catholics make even less sense than them so don't say that.... the reason i ask is because i still believe the bible is the word of god, but just that the jw's have twisted it for their own benefit, as most religions seem to do....
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The moon
by zeb inyes take a look at the moon after 1930h 14th nov. it is the closest the moon is to earth in many years.
wont be this close for many years more.. use any telescope or binoculars.. wowee..
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It was very bright last night. I hope it is not cloudy on Monday.
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Stephane, your list is excellent.
You said: How about you fellows? Do you feel that leaving the Watchtower has made you better people?
I feel getting away from it made me better. I no longer was doused in negativity. I sought education and real answers. I saw and experienced first-hand how actually working to solve a problem was THE answer, and NOT praying more and waiting on some invisible, silent Sky-Daddy to fix it.
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Is this another Trump backflip?
by fulltimestudent inwe've seen one backflip.
crooked hillary became a hard-working woman who deserves the nations praise (in his victory speech);.
now according to a uk newspaper:.
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ShirleyW said: The shit just got real for him, he didn't even think he was going to win, or he wouldn't have been crying the system is rigged a week before the election. He's scared as he can be right now, but his yuuuuuge ego will never let him admit to that.
You are spot on Shirley. I saw the news clip of him and Obama after their meeting. That meeting was supposed to be 30 minutes, it went for 1.5 hours and the Donald said it could have gone on longer. He's about to find out what really happens. I sure hope this man baby grows up real fast. I also hope he can stay on point... for the next 4 years.