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  Every Country and Land... Except Oman

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  so the other day someone asked me what use was it to make the list of countries in which there have been reports.... well... to know that, as far as i can tell, there has never been preaching done in oman.. it has never appeared in any report, and the reports go back to 1926!.

  all other countries and lands have appeared, but not oman.. so there... first useful fact about the watchtower that we can get from 90 years of data..

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  Amazon rainforest?
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  Now I'm Convinced There Probably Is No God

  by pale.emperor in

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  yesterday i made a visit to the museum in my city.

  the top floor is the planetarium, which has a connecting room with a huge dome ceiling where they project lessons and lectures and you have a 360 view of the night sky etc.. this particular lecture explained about our galaxy, and how it's only one of billions in the universe.

  and then we learned about each planet, some of their moons and the sun.

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  Cold Steel, our seasons are due to the axial tilt of the Earth.
  
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  Scriptures rarely mentioned

  by dothemath in

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  a couple of examples of scriptures hardly ever quoted is 1 tim.

  2:12- "i do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence".

  or verse 11- "let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness.".

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  Isaiah 45:7: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. - KJV
  
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  How do you categorise the Society - Cult or High control religion

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i have often seen many categorise the organisation in different ways.

  some say cult, some say high control religion.

  cult or high control religion?.

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  Cult because they use B.I.T.E. (Behaviour, Information, Thought, Emotion) control methods.
  

  I told my Father a few years ago:

  "Any organization that does not allow you to have anything to do with your family or friends who refuse to join said organization is a cult."

  He didn't like what I said but had no rebuttal.
  
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  Short stay

  by midnight in

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  after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.

  midnight..

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  midnight, best wishes to you on your journey as well.

  We will still be here when it doesn't work out.
  
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  The reality we must face.

  by The Rebel in

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  my dearest dad is 90 years old today.

  we are far away, separated by geography, but never will i allow an organisation that indoctrinated false love separate me from my dear dad.

  i love my dad and we had our differences but never will i allow that organisation take away my love for my dad.. happy bithday dad.

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  Old Goat, at 90, you are posting here which says you are still able to do some things even though you are having to rely more on your family. I say well done!

  My Father turns 90 this year too. He cannot post on the Interwebs. He cannot toilet, bathe, dress, or feed himself. He is no longer able to carry on a conversation. I, too, love my Dad even though I do not like some of the things he did that hurt the family when he was zealous in the cult. He is no longer capable of being a zealous witness as his dementia is slowly robbing him of his abilities. One day, he will die because of this disease.

  I was speaking to a colleague of mine yesterday. I told him my Dad has dementia. He said "Well I hope things get better for him." I said "No, he will die from this disease." My colleague said "Don't think like that." I said to him "You don't get better having this disease."

  All that matters now is to be his advocate, be kind to him, and show him love. This is what is important now. Love is very powerful as it transcends the dementia barrier.
  

  THIS is truth... THIS is reality.
  
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  Now I'm Convinced There Probably Is No God

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i made a visit to the museum in my city.

  the top floor is the planetarium, which has a connecting room with a huge dome ceiling where they project lessons and lectures and you have a 360 view of the night sky etc.. this particular lecture explained about our galaxy, and how it's only one of billions in the universe.

  and then we learned about each planet, some of their moons and the sun.

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  The moon does not give Earth its seasons.
  
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  My Dad wants to study with me

  by BlackWolf in

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  so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

  the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

  he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

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  BlackWolf, you handled the study very well. I think it is good that you are trying to be honest, rational, firm, but kind with your Dad. This is what I did with my parents too when I was your age as well as into my young adulthood. It has been successful in me being able to maintain my relationship with them even though, at times, it has been strained and difficult.
  

  I think it is also good that you bring some relevant Scientific information to the studies. Teachers learn from students almost as much as students learn from teachers. It is a reciprocal relationship (as all relationships should be). You have an opportunity here to give your Dad some knowledge he might otherwise not get studying with someone else he's trying to recruit.

  It is possible your Dad is bipolar. I find a lot of people in this religion have these kinds of issues. My parents became like this. I tried to remain calm, rational, and kind when they became angry, delusional, and mean. "Emotions Down, Productivity Up." This is a phrase Monty Roberts uses when dealing with horses... and humans. I have used this and I find that it works.

  I used to have an Instagram account but I think they deleted it after they decided to not let PC users upload images anymore. I presently don't have 'data' on my SmartPhone as it is an extra cost and I wouldn't use it very much anyway.
  
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  Random Thoughts on Getting Older

  by Lee Elder in

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  the reality that all of us ultimately must face is that we get older and our bodies, and our minds eventually fail us.

  i have seen this first hand in my family, in the jw community, and in the ex-jw community.

  it is simply a sad part of the human condition, as is physical, emotional, and mental illness.

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  Everything ages. It is part of the natural processes and cycles of our world, a natural result of linear time. It is not only homo sapien who ages and eventually dies, all life does. Some species have a shorter lifespan, like the chipmunk living only about 3 years, others, a much longer one, such as trees living 100s sometimes 1,000s of years.

  As I began studying more of our natural world, a very profound discovery for me was the following:

  Without death, there would be no life on this planet. Something must die so that something else can live.

  This flies in the face of what religion tries to foist on us. Everyone must choose to live in a deluded world of what they want and hope to be true versus the actual truth of what really exists.

  In my discussions with an Alzheimer's Society's social worker, she told me love transcends the dementia barrier. I know this to be true as I have seen this with my Dad. He doesn't say much now as the disease has robbed him of his ability to select proper words to use. I see him struggling to find them and ultimately losing. But what he does understand is when I tell him I love him. And he is still able to tell me he loves me too. THIS is what matters now, in the winter of his years.
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  Not one visit, 8 years in a nursing home, and not one visit!

  by Raymudas Martini in

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  my dad{rip}, was a faithful jw since the year i was born, i'm 60, he died 2 years ago.

  his last 12 years were spent in an assisted living/nursing home right in the small town where he spent the last 8 years of being an elder/pioneer.

  when he went into the home, one brother would visit him regularly, but after 4 years, that friend moved away, and visitation from the locals ceased, for 8 years!!!!!!!

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  My Mom became very ill in the 1990s. She developed COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease. This is a chronic, ie never gets better, and progressive, ie gets worse over time until you die from it, disease.

  My Dad had to look after her. She had this disease for 11 years. Dad had been pio-sneering and worked something like 60 hours a week for them (he was retired from his job at this point) but had to stop because he suddenly had to take on a lot of extra duties since Mom was no longer able to look after the household.

  All the elders did from this religion is hound my Dad to do the Field Serve-Us. No one came to help him from his congregation.

  This religion shoots its wounded. It is a religion of mandatory performance. They want and need able-bodied, able-minded people only, and yet what they ultimately produce are disable minded, disable bodied people. My Mom is a prime example. I watched this religion suck her personality and individuality slowly from her, much like the Dementors from Harry Potter. It was heartbreaking to watch/experience.