Posts by Heaven

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Proof God Does NOT Exist

by Hadriel in

o.k.

here's just a little fun, you guys can run with it.. if god existed would he allow the whacktower to be in business?

just sayin... lol.

Heaven

We still have much to learn about the cosmos.

But the narratives available so far about the existence of 'god' really fall short, particularly when Science and various other disciplines can prove these narratives to be factually incorrect.

prologos said: Could we accept then, that the creator is female, since in that model, the universe and ourselves are growing inside him?

The pagans believe male and female to be equal in the creator ideal. All is divine in their belief system. The big 3 faiths embraced eliminating the goddess. Why do you think that is?

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Proof God Does NOT Exist

by Hadriel in

o.k.

here's just a little fun, you guys can run with it.. if god existed would he allow the whacktower to be in business?

just sayin... lol.

Heaven

Turtles that urinate through their mouths.

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Any thought behind your " Avatar"

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i think that's the correct phrase?

anyway when i first came here, that little picture that "the rebel" hides behind, was a self portrait of a very sad man, who simply had too much knowledge.

now i feel after 7 months here, i should repaint that " avetor" give some happiness to the eyes, and a contented smile to the lips.. in short my " avetor" was a self portrait of a man with too much knowledge.

Heaven

A former colleague of mine told me I reminded him of Betty Cooper from the Archie Comics.

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Bringing children into this System of Things.

by Nihilistic Journey in

before i left a number of years ago i remember getting bombarded with the message that we shouldn't have children as it wasn't fair to them.

they would have to grow as conditions got worse during the end.

is there anything in the literature or was this just through talks.

Heaven

I did not have children in large part due to my JW upbringing.

About Rutherford, he was an ass. And he even said so himself.

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Theists, why does God allow suffering..

by The Quiet One in

..specifically, the suffering of animals.

you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

Heaven

Cold Steel said: Regardless of when predation began, every living thing on Earth, every bug, every plant and even Earth itself will eventually be made whole and glorified because of Christ.

But you said, animals die because Adam and Eve sinned. The evidence contradicts your statement as the animals were killing and eating each other well before any human 'sinned'. The animals were here on Earth long before humans were. Your logic is flawed.

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Dear Jehova's Witnesses I have a question about your views in evolution.

by Deimos_Sec in

i have been wondering why your organization cannot accept evolution?

(when i say "cannot accept" i mean: you see it as anti christian) the reason i'm so curious about this is because by putting this here i hope to get smarter answers than i usually get, and also because you don't seem to put things like quantum theory, string theory, under the "evil scary scientific stuff label", also many religions have accepted evolution as most likely possible, or as something that is ok to believe since god could have used evolution to create mankind, in fact evolution isn't a "religion" and automatically doesn't get you labeled as an atheist, unless you are talking to the wrong person.

i am by no means trying to make you believe in evolution, i will respect you views, i believe every man has free will, well it kind of says it in the bible.

Heaven

Basically, Evolution debunks the Judeo/Christian Bible narrative of God.

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Start A Butterfly Garden!

by Bonsai in

jw
friends

time to take a break from debating religion.

take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

Heaven

More bulbs up at Dad's place but no flowers yet. My Monarda/bee balm is coming up as are my Columbine but flowers are probably 2 to 4 weeks off. The Dandelions are coming up but not flowering yet. We still have chilly/cold nights with frost. I think the Lamb's Quarters is also up but with only 2 teeny tiny leaves it's hard to tell what they are... could be some lettuce too.

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Theists, why does God allow suffering..

by The Quiet One in

..specifically, the suffering of animals.

you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

Heaven

Cold Steel said: As I see it, Paul put it plainly when he said, "For in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." (I Corinthians 15:22)Many take this "all" to be humans only, but since animals inherited death through Adam, I believe they will inherit life through the atonement.

Cold Steel, predation was occurring on Earth well before homo sapien arrived on the scene.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Heaven

TD said: They are a bizarre hybrid between Christianity and Judaism with the ignorance of both and the understanding of neither....

Yes... JW's - bastardizing ancient beliefs with their own brand of bull sh!te for over 100 years. And still, Armageddon has not arrived.

<sarcasm> But they don't go beyond what is written... nooooo. </sarcasm>

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Christians Know Who God Is

by Loi_241 in

many of us christians have a good question for you to ask, “who is god?” there are more than six scriptures to share with you.

you know the bible itself a true message for all the people on earth.

the bible explains ‘in the beginning god created everything: heaven, earth, animals, people and everything.’ thus, you notice god created humans, adam and eve.

Heaven

redvip2000 has an excellent point. I was talking to a couple of Christians at my Dad's nursing home a while ago. One of them said Jesus told us to go and make disciples of everyone. I said "Well only 1/3 of the world identify as 'Christian'. That says more than 50% are not Christian so you guys haven't been doing the greatest job, have you?" And once again, the deer-in-the-headlights look ensued.