Were any of these brothers named Andre?
Posts by Heaven
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REAL Miracles!!
by pale.emperor inyou all like miracles?
wanna hear some real miracles that have happened?
this is all true folks!
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Heaven
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Txt with uber dub relative. You decide.
by joe134cd inthis is the actuall txt.
i have included spelling mistakes and everything.. relative = brother x passed away this morning just thought i would let you no.
joe = man everyone is dying.
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Heaven
Joe = Man everyone is dying. Did you go to Sister Y funeral the other day. I think a lot of the old timers are now dying.
This is what happens as we all age. It is a fact of life.
What Botchtower has presented as possible truth about never growing old and living on Paradise Earth is bull crap.
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Wow... There More Closet Faders Than I Thought
by pale.emperor inyep, im still fading.
i know it's gonna be a long and meticulous process but so far it's going well.
isnt it funny how when you stop reading the material and stop thinking yourself of being unworthy all the time - eventually you get happier and happier each day and see the world around you the way it is?
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Heaven
The ever changing doctrines of Botchtower are proof they do not have the truth. Period. And that leads to the next revelation that they are not being directed by God. Which really makes them just one more 'Christian' religion out of many with nothing really to offer except the FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt). I personally don't find this to be anywhere near the closest thing to the truth. On the contrary, it is far from it. -
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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Heaven
Why isn't the title of this thread "Goddess's Word and Modern Man"?
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God's Word and Modern Man
by TheLiberator ini have drawn the conclusion that when god speaks, he is using the language and the concepts of the time.
he is not revealing a new scientific understanding when he speaks.
that would be distracting from the point being made.
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Heaven
What I like about Science is this... if you choose not to believe them, they don't threaten you, upon your death, to judge you and if found guilty/unworthy, torture you for all eternity in a burning lake of fire. -
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She displayed a literature cart in front of my house: That does it for me!
by Tempest in a Teacup inis this something they've asked them to do?
cart displays in front of their homes?
my mom is only in her mid 60s so i'm quite sure this is not an issue of mental illness.. the only illness she's suffering from is boredom since she's refused to work for years now.
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Heaven
Simon said: Then you make the rules. Kick the cart out, if she doesn't like it kick her out.
You would be well within your rights to mandate no cult literature be brought to your house.
Our Mom moved into my brother's house for a couple of years. He told her no preaching to his kids. He did allow her to have a Bible study with some old woman who was almost blind and still driving (she was a hazard on the roads as I followed her one day going to my brother's house... holy cow!).
But it was strictly no preaching or discussing their religious crap with him or his family. Way to go Bro!
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How long before The Watchtower goes bankrupt and vanishes?
by VM44 inhow long before the watchtower goes bankrupt and goes away?.
does anyone know how the watchtower is doing financially?.
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Heaven
I am my Father's POA (Power of Attorney). Over 5 years ago, I took over my Dad's finances. He had been giving the Borg tens of thousands of dollars every year! (and nothing to his grand kids btw).
ALL of that came to a screeching halt when I took over. Botchtower has received nothing from him since that time. If more and more older ones who were giving substantial donations are no longer doing this, it must be taking a toll on their financial situation. Add in the lawsuits and the recruitment from poorer countries and the money just isn't there any longer.
I suspect their financial models have been somewhat irresponsible as well. When you think the end of the world is coming imminently, why would you need to be frugal?
It all adds up to financial downfall.
But if this is God's organization, why isn't he ensuring their financial well being? And isn't money the root of all evil? Just one more thing that made me wonder about the whole money/religion thing (back then they used to charge a subscription fee for the ragazines).
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry inthe universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
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Heaven
NASA has so far discovered 12 other planets besides Earth in the habitable zone of stars within the Universe. They say there are many more and I'd agree based on the numbers of estimated stars, solar systems, and galaxies out there. This means that, so far as we know, at least 12 other planets besides ours quite possibly contain life.
How many of these planets actually have Christians on them? I'd wager none, zero, nada, bupkis.
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What were you never going to do in "This system" But did it?
by karter infinish school.. finish my apprenticeship (why are you doing that brother karter you will never finish it in this system).. buy a house.. pay the house off.. karter..
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Heaven
Finish high school.
Have a career.
Grow old.
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JWs in denial, so sad
by Simon ini had a couple of jw sisters call at my door today.. they started with the bizarre "can we read you a scripture" and read about "death being no more" and asked what i thought of that.. i said it sounded like a mix of disney and dumb.. they then launched into how god was going to put an end to death and wasn't that wonderful?.
i said it would have been more wonderful if he'd not created death in the first place.. they thought man created death by disobeying so i questioned why god couldn't have just forgiven them.
apparently "because he loves us" is supposed to be a satisfactory answer to why he kills us.. i asked how loving it was to kill hundreds of thousands of children in tsunami's, disease and so on.. at this point, they gave up on the 'god is love' and switched to the bible being true no matter what because it was an old book and moses had written the first chapter (says the book).. when i suggested it really wasn't that old and that most of the bible myths were copies of older stories from before it was written they questioned if i studied the bible and theology.. then i told them i was brought up as a jw so knew it was all crap.. now it was game on, they immediately switched to play defence questioning why i'd left (and i think they'd already taken a step back away from "the evil" obviously emanating from me).. not much time to say much before they cut and run so i told them i'd left because i found out it was all based on lies and that the watchtower was corrupt and covered up things like child abuse.. oh no, you're thinking of the catholics one of them said (some disdain in how she said "catholics" as though "we're so much better than them").. "well, i challenge you to do a search for the australian royal commission and you'll see the testimony the watchtower leaders gave and the damning evidence that they covered up abuse and reported none of it to the police.".
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Heaven
They must dread knocking on doors like yours Simon. Well done!