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  Why the Bible cannot be the work of an all-wise God that epitomizes love.

  by Island Man in

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  there's simply no way to honestly deny that the ot condones genocide, slavery and misogyny.

  there are too many passage showing yahweh commanding his people to wipe out this nation and that nation - women and innocent children included!

  it leaves us with a god who wrote a book that very, very, very much seems like it condones genocide, but it doesn't, etc.. what kind of god does that?

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  Ah, I see you've discovered one of the biggest cruxes between the old and new testaments of the Bible, between the Jewish and Christian belief system, that being the issue of Theodicy.This was one of my issues starting around the age of 10. For me, it was the extensive and massive suffering of the Ethiopian Famine of the early 1970s and why God did nothing to help these poor people.
  

  I think a lot of current day believers eventually come to this fork in the road.

  The Hebrews thought God to be all things, both good and bad. But it does present a huge logic issue to call him all loving whilst he commits atrocities or allows atrocities to occur.

  One of the key requirements of faith is the abandonment of reason and logic. It was something I was unable to do.
  
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  Were leading characters in the history of Judeao-Christianity suffering from psychotic symptoms?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i don't think i've seen any reference to this academic study on this site.

  the analysis in question was published in a serious academic journal, the journal of neuropsychiatry and clinical neurosciences, in 2012, with the title, the role of psychotic disorders in religious history considered.. the authors were evan d. murray, m.d., giles g cunningham, m.d.

  ph.d, and bruce h.price,m.d.. it was published online october 01, 2012, reference link: http://dx.doi.org/10.1176/appi.neuropsych.11090214.

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  Heaven

  Either that, or they were all smoking some really good sh!t.
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  List of "pagan" things JW's allow

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  what i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.

  the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.

  for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.

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  notsurewheretogo said: Smurfs are pagan aren't they? And they are allowed?

  I dunno... but my JW Mom gave me a Papa Smurf stuffed doll. I still have it. * grin *
  
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  List of "pagan" things JW's allow

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  what i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.

  the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.

  for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.

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  Neckties. And Black Cats. Also, Black Cats in Neckties... I'm pretty sure they are uber Pagan and acceptable.
  

  
  
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  Sin Inherited Humankind

  by looter in

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  so jws believe all humans have faults, problems, birth pangs, etc., because we all inherited sin from the original human being adam.

  like i would like this to make since but why would jehovah do this to future humans who have done nothing wrong at all?

  i think of it like if a parent has one child and that child really disobeyed her before then when the parent has a second child, she punishes that child because of what her first did.

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  Heaven

  The orignal sin concept 'validates' a multi-billion dollar industry selling mythology as truth. Without original sin, there is no need for the Church.

  Religion is legalized fraud.
  
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  slimboyfat joins the Mormons!

  by slimboyfat in

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  i know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.

  at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.

  in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.

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  Heaven

  LOL @ Outlaw. Joseph Smith... once a fraudster always a fraudster, at least, in his case.
  
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  Do flat earth beliefs deserve respect?

  by azor in

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  what say you.

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  Heaven

  No. Check out Eratosthenes of Cyrene and how he figured out the Earth's surface was curved.
  
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  Why do people need religion in this century?

  by sweetgrass in

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  i think people need religion because of fear.

  fear of death and what will happen at death if they have been good or bad.

  people say it gives them hope but is this not born too out of fear of not seeing dead loved ones again, or having a better life in the afterlife?

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  Heaven

  Some people need their security blanket.

  
  
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  "New Heavens & New Earth" (Why The Need For New Heavens?)

  by NoMoreHustle in

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  i have been thinking about this phrase lately "new heavens & new earth".

  the new earth piece i guess i can see that one...... (still not really sure about that one) .

  but why the need for "new heavens"?

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  Heaven

  "New"... is a marketing and sales aid.
  
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  slimboyfat joins the Mormons!

  by slimboyfat in

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  i know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.

  at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.

  in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.

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  Heaven

  Perhaps you can make it your life's quest to discover what happened to the golden tablets/plates.