If your mom has the WT library that should be easy enough. She might even have a bound volume from 92 - if not they have it at the Kingdom Hall.
superpunk
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The May 22, 1994, issue of Awake!
by PSacramento inthis is the awake that has the pictures of kids that died because they or their families refused blood.. my jw mom refuse to believe that the wt would put their faces on a magazine.. does anyone know where i can get a copy or download it?.
thanks.
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"You were a much nicer person when you were in the truth!"
by highdose in"you were a much nicer person when you were in the truth!
since you havn't been to the meetings your starting to change.
your so into standing up for yourself like you think its a good thing!!?!
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"You were a much nicer person when you agreed with me on just about everything."
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Ciro Aulicino "What the Future Holds", Talk FreeMinds site:
by frankiespeakin inwhat kind of manipulator do you think this guy is,,he's a real delusional manipulator i wounder if he even believes his own bs.. ciro aulicino:.
http://www.randytv.com/whatfutureholds.htm.
delusional to the extreme!
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You think of the Vietnam War, the Korean War, even the attack on Pearl Harbor. Those were between nations. But now you have a whole world coalition, including the United Nations, whom the Secretary General said on television, "We must root out terrorism off the face of this earth." Now that changes things, friends. That should alert us. That should make us very concerned. Are we near the end? Well we're not saying that.
Oh, piss off.
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Why do people say the god of the bible is Omnisciencent?
by Elsewhere ingen 3:8,9 then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord god as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord god among the trees of the garden.
but the lord god called to the man, "where are you?".
in this passage in the bible the humans hid from the god and the god was left wondering around yelling: "where are you?"..
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God is not bound by our definitions, understandings, or expectations.
You haven't figured that out yet?
This reminds me of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3jDoEBqg5c&feature=related
"Judo could be anything - including guns!"
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Why do people say the god of the bible is Omnisciencent?
by Elsewhere ingen 3:8,9 then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord god as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord god among the trees of the garden.
but the lord god called to the man, "where are you?".
in this passage in the bible the humans hid from the god and the god was left wondering around yelling: "where are you?"..
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All knowing = infinit knoledge.
The ability to know all that can be known.
Which would presumably include knowing things like what choices people will make.
As NVL has already pointed out, you cannot on the one hand claim God has infinite knowledge, and on the other hand claim that he doesn't "know" what choices we will make.
And you can't honestly bastardize the meaning of words and concepts in order to fit these contradictory statements together.
If God knows the outcomes to all choices, but doesn't know what choices will be made, then God doesn't know everything.
As I mentioned earlier, this instance of God was simply meant for the people of the time - people who thought God had human characteristics - anyone who takes the time to think through it in this day and age should aptly reject it as nonsense, because of how contradictory the tale is.
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Why do people say the god of the bible is Omnisciencent?
by Elsewhere ingen 3:8,9 then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord god as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord god among the trees of the garden.
but the lord god called to the man, "where are you?".
in this passage in the bible the humans hid from the god and the god was left wondering around yelling: "where are you?"..
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If He knew WHICH ONE, then we don't have free will.
Boom. Exactly.
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Why do people say the god of the bible is Omnisciencent?
by Elsewhere ingen 3:8,9 then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord god as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord god among the trees of the garden.
but the lord god called to the man, "where are you?".
in this passage in the bible the humans hid from the god and the god was left wondering around yelling: "where are you?"..
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He is aware of ALL posibilites and outcome, big difference.
Example:
God decides to speak to you and you ask him, God will I win the lottery?
God: Yes, IF you decide play the lottery on this day at this time at this palce and play these numbers.
God knows but the decision is ours, God NOT telling us is keeping the "law" of free will in place.
Adding the word "all" makes no difference to whether God can see into the future or not. Bible-God can and is recorded as doing a good deal more than simply write "If/Then" excel formulas.
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Why do people say the god of the bible is Omnisciencent?
by Elsewhere ingen 3:8,9 then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord god as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord god among the trees of the garden.
but the lord god called to the man, "where are you?".
in this passage in the bible the humans hid from the god and the god was left wondering around yelling: "where are you?"..
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I think I would have been more than just a little dissappointed if Adam had simply robotically obeyed the orders about the fruit, and was still wandering around that garden stark naked after how-ever many thousand years now. When is that guy going to show some initiative? A truly ROBOTIC ADAM could have done just that...
Well said. Moreover, since the story's Adam did not have any "formative years", he must have been morally nothing more than a computer program (since there were no other humans his morality was what God programmed it to be). If I had personally written a computer program that malfunctioned, I would be more upset with myself (or possibly someone else who interfered with my program) than the program itself.
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Why do people say the god of the bible is Omnisciencent?
by Elsewhere ingen 3:8,9 then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord god as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord god among the trees of the garden.
but the lord god called to the man, "where are you?".
in this passage in the bible the humans hid from the god and the god was left wondering around yelling: "where are you?"..
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PSacramento - all you're saying is that God is aware of possibilities. And yes, all adults are aware that all of these things could happen. If that is all that God is capable of then what good is he? How could he possibly lay down any sweet prophecies if that was the case?
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Why do people say the god of the bible is Omnisciencent?
by Elsewhere ingen 3:8,9 then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord god as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord god among the trees of the garden.
but the lord god called to the man, "where are you?".
in this passage in the bible the humans hid from the god and the god was left wondering around yelling: "where are you?"..
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God's omnisicence is that God knows all the POTENTIAL putcoems of our decsions, but WE still get to choose which ones we make.
God is outside our time/space continueum.
I have to call BS. If knowing possible outcomes is omniscience than we're ALL omniscient most of the time.
Having discernment and foresight is a long way from being all-knowing.