Posts by HintOfLime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

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the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

Yes, I think we're all well aware of where you stand, Perry:

For me, I'm done in fully trusting men.

Great news for us all!

You can start by throwing out any peer-reviewed medication you are taking, that carefully peer-reviewed sanitized water that comes into your house, and foods utilizing peer-reviewed pasturization processes. Germ theory is, afterall a peer-reviewed scientific theory - and obviously one of the devious machinations of Satan.

All that's left is to start drinking water straight from a wholesome God-created pond or stream nearby.... and I think we're in business.

Best of luck to ya!

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

jw
friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

Just for fun, (and to change the subject) - I thought I'd throw some light on LeeT's question with Google Earth. I went to the top of Mt. Hermon - the tallest Mountain in Israel (ok, a few hundred feet over it, but I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt)....

Next, using the polygon tool, I clicked as far out onto the horizon as I could see in all directions...

And now all we have to do, is zoom out... (Sorry, for the top being to the South in this shot... but not a big deal in what we are looking for.)

And on a global scale...

(Look for the small white blob around Israel).

Now... the Israelites must have know about Egypt... but I have a feeling the mountain in LeeT's question had to have been an 'imaginary, taller mountain'. But it's interesting. (Obviously, using Google Earth, this is only a rough estimate, but I bet the actual distance isn't far off from this.)

Addendum:

Just to beat a dead horse - here's the view range from Everest

Of course.... if you believe the world is flat....

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

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friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

Paleontologists don't perform CT scans silly; only docs do!

Ugh. Not true.

Haven't you heard? The peer review process was exposed as highly susceptible to fraud weeks ago.

(It's cute how your 'reference' here is your own ranting... followed by 19 pages of people disagreeing and debunking what you said. Anyway...)

Your pattern matching skills are completely defunct. ONE potentially negative data point does not constitue a pattern of being "highly susceptible". Countering that, there are thousands upon thousands of positive data points for peer review.

Let's compare that to fraud amoung Religion! LOTS of confirmed negative data points all over the place!

Besides what is your proposed alternative? Just blindly believing every peice of unchallenged information you read on the interent, hear from a friend, or see on TV (or read from a book centries of years old)? The Earth is flat and the center of the universe!

- Lime

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Second most pleasurable thing?

by ldrnomo in

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so what do you think is the second most pleasurable activity a human being can do?.

i reserved the 1st for the obvious.. .

ld.

HintOfLime

Lord Chesterfield on the obvious: the pleasure is momentary, the position ridiculous, and the expense damnable.

If ever I heard a clear-cut case of "you're doing it wrong"... this was it.

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

jw
friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

But, there is absolutle no doubt that humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Oh really?

Dr. Peterson is a graduate of the University of Minnesota College of Medicine and completed his residency in Family Medicine at the University of Oklahoma. He is a past president of the Oklahoma Academy of Family Physicians.

He had a full-time family practice in Edmond for over 26 years and is a past Chief of Staff of the Edmond Hospital. ... Dr. Peterson speaks regularly on subjects related to health and nutrition.

Ugh... not even verified not by a paleontologist - but by a family doctor. You've got to be kidding me.

Beyond that, I couldn't find any references to it in any published papers - and no carbon dating to verify it's age. According to talk.orgins, the finger was not found in situ (there is no matching hole in the rock formation to establish that where it was in the timeline). Someone basically found a something that looks kinda like a human finger laying on the ground somewhere, and a Family Medical Doctor took it on his buddies Christian radio show and said "Yep! I know it to be true! And the rock nearby has 60-million year old dinosaur footprints... so it MUST be as old as they are!"

No in depth testing, no peer review, nothing - for something that purports 'shakes the roots of evolution'. Just the opinion of a single nutritional expert.

There are of course other potential explanations - much better than family doctor Peterson can offer (being generally unfamiliar with anything except human anatomy), and not nearly so glamorous - that it could be a Ophiomorpha or Thalassinoides shrimp burrow.

Unless a finger was found completely encased in stone, it is highly unlikely that a whole human finger would be fossilized rather than just the bones anyway... making it further suspicious.

So... pretty weak, dude. If Peterson was so sure - he would have it peer reviewed and get that Nobel Prize.

- Lime

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Second most pleasurable thing?

by ldrnomo in

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friends

so what do you think is the second most pleasurable activity a human being can do?.

i reserved the 1st for the obvious.. .

ld.

HintOfLime

I reserve at least the first 1000 for the obvious thing.

At least. You know there are several books on how to do a different variation of the obvious thing each day of the year? And they still leave out most of it because they don't want to scare off the timid readers.

#1331 is laying in bed, eating a snack, while a special friend reads a good sci-fi/fantasy book to me... wearing sexy pajamas. So... not quite the obvious thing.

- Lime

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Do you consider yourself to be a grownup?

by highdose in

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although tecnicaly i am, i'm afraid i don't feel like it.

wondered if i was in the minority or majority?.

HintOfLime

You're not a grown-up until you learn to stop leaning on and/or seeking the approval of other people, and stand up completely on your own two feet.

Especially when it comes to conditional-love JW parents. :P

- Lime

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Climate Change (nee Global Warming) Strkes Again!!

by slipnslidemaster in

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the mid-atlantic states were completely white on sunday, december 20, 2009, in the wake of a record-breaking snow storm.

the storm deposited between 12 and 30 inches of snow in virginia, maryland, and washington, d.c. on december 19, according to the national weather service.

for many locations, the snowfall totals broke records for the most snow to fall in a single december day.. the moderate resolution imaging spectroradiometer (modis) on nasas aqua satellite captured this view of the chesapeake bay region as the clouds were clearing on december 20. the snow highlights the courses of the potomac and susquehanna rivers from the appalachian mountains to the chesapeake bay.

HintOfLime

Humans are part of nature. So.. if humans cause the earth to heat up - it's nature. :P

If we humans kill ourselves... it's nature. It's not like we'd be the first species to do ourselves in. Just another evolutionary dead-end.

As for the alarmist/extremists on both sides... the facts lay somewhere in the middle. Are we changing the climate? Probably. Will that mean species die? Probably, but species die all the time anyway. Is the sky falling? Probably not.

Should we take no action at all? Probably not.

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

jw
friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

As far as other savior Gods, like Perry said there is simply none like Jesus.

For one, I don't believe that for a second..."messianic" stories have been popping up for thousands of years... maybe 'horus' is a bad example, maybe he's not. It's all your word against theirs. (And Christian hands aren't exactly clean when it comes to killing people with opposing ideas and stories... removing evidence as it were. That IS documented.)

Secondly... there are no "saviors" like Frodo Baggins. No one else in all of literature carried the One Ring to Mount Dhoom along side Samwise Gamgee! It does not follow that because a story is 'original' (which I don't think it is) that it is thus the infallible word of god.

So really.. the point is - none of this matters in the least!

It's still just a historical fiction with no solid evidence that the miracles really happened or the prophecies happend as foretold and were not recorded after-the-fact, and were not shot-gun style (select books to include the bible that happened to get it right after-the-fact). We KNOW there was plenty of material written back then that didn't 'make the cut' in the Council of Trent.

"God" seems to have built the bible on a foundation of sand.

- Lime

PS: Heh heh. I love debating this stuff. You learn stuff, and it can be fun!

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Thanks to everyone here!!!

by 2pink in

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i don't post much, but i read here everyday.

i just wanted to thank everyone here for always replying to my posts with sincerity and good advice .

i always feel better after coming here and reading the threads.

HintOfLime

You were given Crab Hands..

So you Don`t Play with your "Willy!"

Ha ha, freaking awesome. Simon must want to save those kittens!

- Lime (The winking pink spider with snake hair, tv antennas and a pig-nose.)