Posts by HintOfLime

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Was God over reacting destroying the whole planet in Noah's flood to kill afew evil people...too bad Noah forgot the Unicorns and Dinosaurs according to the Watchtower!

by Witness 007 in

yes instead of striking them dead he decided to flood the entire planet killing every living plant and animal {sorry peta members} which only afew years before he created declaring it "good.

" then he made a "rainbow" as a sign that never again will he destroy every living thing.. wasn't this over the top?.

too bad they forgot the poor unicorns and dinosuars though!.

HintOfLime

I don't know. Theists and atheists expect species to adapt. It's something else to suggest traits of survivability will result in an episode of speciation.

Take an image and change one pixel. Then do it again. And again. Do it 1000 times. 10,000 times. Given enough changes, you change the whole image.

We know life is governed by the genetic code. We know there are small changes in the code with each successive generation.

"Mice and humans each have about 30,000 genes, yet only 300 are unique to either organism. Both even have genes for a tail, even though it's not "switched on" in humans." - CNN Article

Until someone can point out a specific mechanism or barrier by which genetic drift can't drift far enough to become a new species, creationists have no argument. As Thunderf00t put it - the only difference between so-called 'micro-evolution' within a species and 'macro-evolution' creating new species is time scale. The creationist argument seems to be that life can walk 10ft, but not 100ft - but they never describe any mechanism that is prevents it.

Observed Instances of Speciation on Google.

- Lime

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Why should I have to sign a letter saying I want to disassociate ?

by troubled mind in

i don't understand why the elders want this letter so badly ....for one i don't remember signing a contract to become a jehovah's witness ,why do i need to resign ?.

also i was baptised in 1978 before the baptism questions changed , i dedicated myself to god not an organization .

my vow was to follow the direction by holy spirit as revealed to me through the bible, not the watchtower ...... if i belonged to the luthern church and quit going after three yrs they drop your name off the member list ........but if i chose to come to easter or christmas service everyonre would still talk to me i just wouldn't be a member any more .. .

HintOfLime

Huge bunch of jerks here. Man....The elders are concerned about you. And you treat them in this manner. Look at all these posts. People can certainly see the difference between an apostate and a geniune christian like Jehovah´s witnesses.

How is the elders asking for a DA letter showing 'concern'? Please explain that to me.

They're not concerned about you. They are concerned about their power over you and others. They want you to lend them a knife so they can stab you in the back. If you give them the letter, you give them permission to judge and damn you with it.

Elders are nothing more than power-happy men who master the art of false humility. If you ask a serious, direct questions that expose them for the petty bullies that they are - instead of high and mighty 'elders' - they won't be motivated to contact you.

- Lime

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HOW/WHO to donate - hungry, orphans, widows.......

by EndofMysteries in

been almost a year, i've planned on, and time for me to start doing something as i continue to learn the real truth.

we gotta follow our conscious and heart in this matter.

i do want to help those who are in 'real' need, and also donate some to organizations who give almost every cent to that.

HintOfLime

Wow, that's a great idea, thanks for the link, Chickpea.

- Lime

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Was God over reacting destroying the whole planet in Noah's flood to kill afew evil people...too bad Noah forgot the Unicorns and Dinosaurs according to the Watchtower!

by Witness 007 in

yes instead of striking them dead he decided to flood the entire planet killing every living plant and animal {sorry peta members} which only afew years before he created declaring it "good.

" then he made a "rainbow" as a sign that never again will he destroy every living thing.. wasn't this over the top?.

too bad they forgot the poor unicorns and dinosuars though!.

HintOfLime

So the “peer reviewed scientific documents” for human origins are anymore credible?

Yes, they are. Good explainations are in agreement with the evidence, and not contradicted by it.

Scientists continually find new fossils that re-affirm and expand our understanding of human evolution. Through the use of multiple sources - including the fossil records and etroviral DNA in the Y chromosome, we can trace the age and origins of humans and come to a progressively better understanding of ourselves and our world. The biblical accounts don't change to account for new evidence - they don't improve. It doesn't account for fossils of ancient humanoids, and it never will. For people living in the middle east thousands of years ago - a giant boat with all the animals that they knew of may sound reasonable. With what we know today, it isn't.

We can do the math - X number of animals living on the Arc for 1 year and 11 days requires Y tons of food, would require Z hours/day of caretakers to feed them all, would produce W tons of waste each day that would need to be removed by what.. 8 people? The saltwater of the oceans combined with the rainwater would turn all water brackish, and only a few species of fish can live in brackish water. All sea life would die - that is easily testible - go buy an aquarium and some fish and try it. Trees and most plants cannot live completely submerged for 1 year and 11 days. As previously mentioned, there are species of plants and animals that live only in sepecific places on the earth - some that are very specific, including lizards and spiders that only exist in a single cave. How did they get there from the arc? How many miles would they had to travel, how many generations would it take? Are there insurmountable obstacles in their trek such as oceans? On.. and on.. and on it goes. All the hard evidence and even simple logic contradicts Noah's Flood. Because it's nonsense.

All that can be offered in it's behalf of the bible is apologetics and accusations that scientists MUST be wrong. Religious people can't tell us how scientists are wrong, or where specificaly the error in their calculations are... they just 'know' they are wrong. Someone recently posted a video of a JW public talk on evolution. You'll notice the speaker didn't discuss facts or fossil evidence - they have no leg to stand on there. The entire talk is spent on appeals to emotion, appeals to tradition, and demonizing science (part of satan's world trying to distract us) - they don't actually discuss the theory at all, and even intentionally mis-represent it (lie).

The bible suggests that we started in a garden with a talking snake. It speaks of a man who made stronger by "magical hair". It has a dozen other stories that if you took a step away, and just look at it unemotionally.. it is not credible.

The bible gets us nothing, "keep believing and your problems will go away". If you really want to understand the world, who we are, and where we came from... science delivers.

- Lime

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A sneak peek of the future, June 23, 2010

by EndofMysteries in

you will not see this on the news, or very slight mention of it.

youtube, and other places will show you.

look out for the g 2 0 and g 8 summ it meetings in tooronto canada.

HintOfLime

I fortell EoM posting more youtube videos of protesters yelling at cops, and claims that the cars set on fire were created by 'police disguised as protesters' - to create an excuse to for testing out non-lethal weapontry on protesters.

Of course, EoM didn't have the balls to just say that's what will happen 5 days ago - probably because 'there will be protesters clashing with riot control' isn't a big shocking secret - most people just expect that sort of thing to happen at these events. Predicting a clash between protesters and police is like predicting a clash between a dog and a cat. Whatever he was hoping for didn't materialize - so now it's time to fall back on conspiracy theories.

I've already seen 2 of the videos he's posted - it's just the same old same old. "Peaceful protesters" (who are wearing masks over their faces and waving sticks in the air at police) being told by police that they are becomming agressive and need to disperse.

If someone wants to impress us with a prediction - be specific. Being vague in your prophecies doesn't make you mysterious, it makes you a coward - you didn't even have enough confidence in your predictions to level with us.

- Lime

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT- CULTURE

by serenitynow! in

jw
friends

so as not to hijack another thread i decided that a thread on culture could be useful.

i'd like to provide a safe place for people to talk about cultural norms or abnormals.

you don't want to learn that you've done or said the wrong thing by gettin' a fist in the face, know what i'm saying?.

HintOfLime

Sorry, I'm offended by people who are easily offended.

- Lime

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT- CULTURE

by serenitynow! in

jw
friends

so as not to hijack another thread i decided that a thread on culture could be useful.

i'd like to provide a safe place for people to talk about cultural norms or abnormals.

you don't want to learn that you've done or said the wrong thing by gettin' a fist in the face, know what i'm saying?.

HintOfLime

Wow, really?? I guess if you can't keep yourself from saying inflammatory and ignorant things (on purpose)

then black people will better off

because of your avoidance. What is your culture BTW? I'd really like to know so that I know I can be rude around those

folks with no worries.

I was being sarcastic, for the most part. I'm not saying it's ok to intentionally offend people - but if stealing a french fry is on the list of things that could get me a 'fist in the face' - well, screw it! What else might get me a fist in the face? Do I want to be around individuals who are likely to respond with violence to a single word, or "messin' with the 'do"?

You can say nearly anything at my table... and you'd be extremely hard pressed to find something that would land you a fist in the face. I might ask you to stop, or to leave...

I think in a large group like this though - you need a thick skin. People bash liberals, atheists, etc. all the time, and sometimes you just have to shake your head and close the thread.

- Lime

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT- CULTURE

by serenitynow! in

jw
friends

so as not to hijack another thread i decided that a thread on culture could be useful.

i'd like to provide a safe place for people to talk about cultural norms or abnormals.

you don't want to learn that you've done or said the wrong thing by gettin' a fist in the face, know what i'm saying?.

HintOfLime

Ah, gee.. I don't want to hurt anyone's feeling. Unfortunately it sounds like black people have a lot of special rules. I don't want a light-hearted attempt at swiping a french fry off my friend's plate... or letting the 'm****y' word slip in a discussion of human evolution to land me in the hospital with a broken jaw.

I dunno, maybe it'd just be better if I avoid making friends with black people. And I guess I'll have to tell the ones I'm already friends with I can't be their friend anymore, because I'm likely to offend them with my culture.

(Instead of creating a list of 'commandments' people must obey when around you.. maybe just politely let people know if they do something that offends you, and then let it go?)

- Lime

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Can a Brother wear a Bolo Tie and give a Talk at the KH?

by zadok777 in

a bolo tie is a western look.

i remember seeing brothers wear western cut sports coats...wear cowboy booths...would a bolo tie be ok today?

i know the no hair look passed.

HintOfLime

These stories reminded of that time Jesus pulled Peter into a back room for wearing a blue and gold robe instead of one of the more modest earthen colors, as well as the time he counciled Mathew for the "worldly" way he was trimming his beard.

Let's also not forget the very timely council Jesus gave to John the Baptist when he discovered John was performing baptisms whilst wearing camel skins and even having locus breath.

True disciples of Christ know the good lord is very particular when it comes to how you dress and groom.

- Lime

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The sweet sound of a critic

by Lady Lee in

got this email.

i am not a jehovah witnesses, but all my family are......i saw your video on "youtube" and what you said about them is despicable and i think your hypocrisy in your face made me sick... shut your mouth and have respect for all religions.... i can say bad things about all religions but i have the decency to respect their faith and their thoughts... guest who is next to me seeing me writing this email to you nothing but a musulman friend, and a jewish friend and by the way they say that you are a sick old lady.... -------------.

this is in reference to the video clip on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viswagy_emg that is a short clip from a much longer interview (85 minutes).

HintOfLime

Just pull a few articles where the WT critizes the catholic church, protestants, scientists, etc - and send that back if anything. It's not as though the WT is tolerant or uncritical of other viewpoints by any stretch of the imagination.

- Lime