Ah ok. It wouldn't be the first time something petty (like say a harmless four-letter word) was thrown out on this thread to detract attention away from the real issues.
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Grieving?
Dude, are you really that petty?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Griefing
I called you for evidence and you're going to try to call "spelling" (when you are wrong about it)?
Well that which can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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Thanks for posting that Ann. That's what I love about this forum. As long as Simon does not delete the thread it is all there in the archives. It is a great resource for researching recognizable ExJW names even if they are no longer allowed to post here too.
I also find it interesting that the same JWN members that were following Cedars around causing him grief 5 months ago are the same ones leading the bandwagon dissent against him and AAWA today.
Interesting claim. Care to back that up with some evidence? You just acknowledged this forum is a good resource, certainly you can dig up threads with the same posters in this thread 'griefing Cedars' with links to relevant posts by the same people posting here (disagreement with methodology or approach is not the same as 'griefing', in case you somehow think it is).
I thought Cedars was pretty well appreciated and respected here.
(While Cedars is president of the AAWA, I also believe it is important to hold the WHOLE board of the the AAWA responsible for this disaster.)
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Regarding the "Ex-JWs vs. the Watchtower" thing....
Winning at any cost is not winning to me.
Winning by stepping on people, lying to cover your tracks, manipulating facts, controlling information (filtering comments), refusing feedback provided out of legit concern, etc...
That's not winning. That's just becomming the thing you claim to hate.
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Ah - I just realized, the Richard Kelly that immediately "Liked" the image of Betsy's private information being posted is the same Richard Kelly that filed the incorporation paperwork with Arizona.
In that a member of the AAWA's board of directors "Likes" exposing someone's private information and considers it an "appropriate professional response" to this situation, I think I'm going to visit the AAWA homepage and use my Web of Trust plugin to vote down their "Trustworthiness" and "Privacy" ratings. I can't in good consious suggest anybody should feel safe with their private information in AAWA's hands.
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So....
When JWN asked the AAWA for the names of those who were force-adding people to the AAWA group so they could be de-friended on Facebook, Cedars and the AAWA refused to provide the names (including the name of this person). Names that are already public in a public Facebook group anyway, and names that hundreds of people who were added to the group knew (it was just a matter of time).
When those names came to light anyway (I'd hinted at them previously). Then suddenly the AAWA has NO PROBLEM singling out Betsy for some reason and exposing his private information on a public forum. For the sake of being a professional organization, no-doubt. Suddenly Betsy is evil and needs to be shunned, while one of the people who exposed others pretends to be the victim.
"We will expose your private identity, but don't you dare expose us or we'll expose more of you!"
Add "Total Hypocracy" to the that list of "good deeds" the AAWA has done.
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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]
by Simon inuncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.
aawa is here!!
(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?
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However, I blame Facebook for this more than AAWA or any of the other ex-JW groups.
Do you blame Facebook also and not the AAWA for deciding not to take positive action by immediately removing the users that were added without consent after it was brought to their attention the effect this was having?
All they had to do was remove the people they "invited" from the group or close and re-create the group - and the damage would have been immediately limited. Instead - to this day, the problem continues. They refuse to do what needs to be done - give people the CHOICE to take on the risk of being in their group instead of insisting it upon others. Just this morning we learned about Sic Semper's situation from his thread - it is clearly an ongoing issue and it'll continue to be ongoing.
The AAWA through inaction continues to declare "we don't really care about people".
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The problem was resolved very quickly within a couple of hours. Everyone's IP locations were blanked. There was no need to publicly post anything, I felt, for reasons of discretion - a) it would have caused unnecessary anxiety for JWNers and b) the matter was dealt with quickly and was over.
Contrast this immediate action removing the information from the web this with the AAWA's policy of "they can opt-out if they want" and dismissing valid concerns.
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AKA, blame the victim.
By Facebook's user agreement, you are not allowed to have multiple user accounts (Terms of Use 4.2), and if discovered your accounts (all of them) may be closed.
Furthermore, in some countries, such as Europe, you are legally required to use real legal name on Facebook.
So not only are you blaming the victim, what you are suggesting is in some cases against the law.
And yes, the AAWA has admitted as far that they did add people to their facebook group without consent. They've acknowledged these things happened, and continue to put people at risk by refusing to take the nessessary action of removing those people they added without consent.
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*Big sigh*
Sorry to hear this happened to you, Sic Semper.
Ugh. So frustrating.
They might still make it, but I would think disband, rethink and restart might be the better course - this time with some community builders onboard.
I agree. The concept can still be good. But I think they need a stronger board that is determined to take action based on compassion, responsibility, and experience rather than irresponsibility, denial, and arrogance.
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