Posts by HintOfLime

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Are Watchtower Writers Frauds or Morons?

by metatron in

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i have asked a salient question.

i will leave the answer to your judgement.. look, the may 1 watchtower on page 27 considers the question "did king hezekiah really build a tunnel into jerusalem?".

in their answer, the society replies, "the carbon - 14 tests we carried out on organic material within the plaster of the siloam tunnel, and uranium-thorium dating of stalactities found in the tunnel, date it conclusively to hezekiah's era.

HintOfLime

According to the Insight book and a 1986 Awake article, C-14 dating is reliable for all dates SINCE the flood (2370 BCE or so).

There is also the matter of that pesky post-flood Egyptian civilization. Not only do many Egyptian stone tools back to 5500 BCE or earlier - but Egypt has a written history going back to 3300 BCE - that's right, a written record starting 1000 years before the wt flood.

So apparently durring the -3130 years between the flood of 2370 BC, and the early stone tools of 5500 BC, Noah got off the arc, some of his family traveled back into time, so that they could provide Egypt with stone tools and the hundreds of thousands of slaves needed to build the Step Pyramid in 2750 BC (also pre-dating the wt flood).

The entire Egyptian civilization is all supposed to be all post-flood mind you.. so there's no radical change in 'atmospheric radiation' to blame here... (Note also that modern archaeologists employ several dating methods, not just C-14. Each dating method has a specific range and accuracy, but by combining techniques they have been able to increase accuracy. They would have certainly noticed if atmospheric changes were causing C-14 to deviate significantly from values deduced using other methods... infact, they have detected such deviations and they adjust for them.)

- Lime

19

Stop looking for the answer,

by John Doe in

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and you will discover the truth.

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HintOfLime

Having a scientific disposition, I think it's all about the sex (procreation).

- Lime

30

my 5 hr. JC meeting. how long was yours as Apostate vs reg? i heard 8...

by oompa in

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to 10 for sure....they will not even eat!!!

!..........what a whackjob group....fornisatisfaction....or such gets an hour at most....but omg.....we big a folks have a long haul.

and i did not mean the adultrisatisfaction folks....... not that is a bad thing!!

HintOfLime

Oompa, if ever you play the JC game again... take the bottle in with you and insist on taking a drink every time they read a scripture out of context.

If somehow I was called into a JC, I'd probably show up for the 'lolz'. It'd be fun to point out that they (the JC elders) are so powerless and undereducated in the real world they like to dress up and play "people's court".

- Lime

29

Anyone seen this?....New Releases 2009 Convention of Jehovahs Witnesses

by middleman in

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it's so funny that you need a password to see this "spiritual food" hah.

for the password they say:.

"heres what to do:take out aprils our kingdom ministry, look at week starting may 4. combine the 3 song numbers into one number (thats the password)now click on the image of the governing body below,.

HintOfLime

You can't post the entire DVD on youtube or you'll be hit with a DMCA, however if you're doing a critique on it you can cite a specific article in the DMCA so that it cannot be taken down. I forget which article it is off the top of my head. If someone could get me a copy of knocking I'd love to lambast that as well.

No, but hopefully it'll show up on bittorrent. I'll probably grab a copy so I have good responses in case my parents want to pretend they are "scientific" with me again. Usually the "arguments" are the opinion of a single man (I wonder if they'll quote Behe), or appeals to ignorance and/or emotion. I love these kinds of things, as if they have any depth, they make a nice 'spot the logical fallacy test'.

I imagine in a video, they'll just summerize their scientific ignorance, throw in some out-of-context scriptures, and pat themselves on the back for knowing the 'truth about God's glory' or such drival.

- Lime

5

straight toothbrushes were never a prob for me...and 5 blade razors?..beer?"

by oompa in

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we really need angled toothbrushes?

we are not intelligent enough to use a straight toothbrush and get it to reach all the teeth?....and i like one blade razors!....the safety ones!...they still rock as retro and do not clog.....so then there were two....fine......then three.......now five!!!!

!.........who the fluck needs to shave their face five times with one swipe?!?!??!?!........

HintOfLime

Sounds like you should avoid the "As seen on TV" store, in that case, Oompa.

- Lime

18

Blood being refused here in my area

by AK - Jeff in

the baby is known only as baby binn according to the news report i just saw on wane channel 15 in fort wayne.. she was born premature, and her blood count is low.. the local liason elder - richard dellinger - made a couple of polite policy statements in front of a camera.

he quoted acts and said that 'the parents have taken a stand - therefore whatever the courts rule - the parents will not be held accountable by god' [or substance].

he, of course is praising that 'alternate choices' of treatment have been used.

HintOfLime

With kemotherapy, the survival rate is 90%.

OTWO,

Where did you get those numbers.

I too would like to know. Is this figure supposed to be for all kemotherapy, just lukemia, or just for a specific condition or stage? It seems a bit too good to be true. If it is true, those are some interesting and powerful statistics.

- Lime

5

Finally bot a HDTV

by AK - Jeff in

not a big one - 32".

great picture - i am building an entertainment center to house it and components.. i might get a bigger one someday - but this one might be just fine for the spot i have for it.. took the plunge.. jeff.

HintOfLime

For a second there, I was jeaous. Fiber Optic HD... wow! Then I realized, of the hundreds of cable channels I get, I only watch 3 of them.

Likewise even with fiber optic internet, there's not many things I do that aren't already bandwidth constrained by the remote end, rather than my end. As it is.. they're only so much resolution I want when I watch an youtube video.

- Lime

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In the News: Jehovah's Witnesses: 'End is near'

by Elsewhere in

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http://www.wptv.com/news/local/story/jehovahs-witnesses-prepare-believers-for-the-end/ho63h5z-q0akzmfqhmrwvw.cspx.

jehovah's witnesses: 'end is near'reported by: eric glasser .

email: [email protected] .

HintOfLime

"Wolf!!! There's a wolf!"

Fool me 18 times, shame on you. Fool me 19 times, shame on me.

- Lime

8

My own little GB memory

by mindmelda in

i just remembered this, as it happened back in the mid 70s.

my parents had taken my younger brother and i to hear two "special" talks in salt lake city.. the featured speakers were knorr and raymond franz.. i remember being entranced by franz, who was one of the more concise speakers i'd ever heard, very sharp, and rather bored by knorr, who seemed elderly and vague.

i was about 13/14 at the time but had these very distinct impressions.. anyway, after the talks, the crowds were pressing in to get a chance to shake the speakers hands, and my 12 year old brother (who had adhd and still does) pushed impulsively through the crowd and ran smack into knorr.

HintOfLime

My only first-hand experience with a GB member was horrible. I don't know which GB member it was, but he was giving a talk at our district convention. I was about 14 at the time. It was the day after one of his public talks, and I bumped into him in the bathroom. Washing our hands next to eachother, I expressed my appreciation for the talk, and then went to dry my hands. He suddenly grabbed me by my arm, and scolded me. "You didn't use any soap, boy."

I guess my apostacy took root at an early age. I didn't use soap. His council went unheeded though.. as soon as he let go.. I made an immediate bee-line for the door, and made sure to 'lose him' in mid-day crowd. To my horror, the next day my family and a few others were invited to have dinner with the GB! I had to hide my face behind other people throughout the entire meal - he might recognize me! The doesn't use soapboy. It was a nightmare. My dad was the local PO and sitting right next to him, and eventually he'd have to recognize me. The elders would find out that when a GB member told me to jump I didn't ask 'how high'?

Another good memory,

When I was really little, maybe 4.. and my older brother 5, my family took the District Overseer out to lunch. (The honor... that's like what, an archbishop?)

Midway through the meal, my brother suddenly walks up to the overseer and asks him in all solemn seriousness,"Do you know what dad said he will do to me if I don't behave today?"

The overseer looks puzzled, and asks him "What?" My brother sticks his finger up against his throat, and slowly drags his finger across his throat making the obligatory "shhhhhhhhkkk!!" sound (as in.. daddy will cut my throat.)

My dad jokes about it, and claims he doesn't know where my brother could have gotten the idea. Sure. Kids say the darndest things sometimes.

- Lime

9

What happens over very long periods of time...

by Elsewhere in

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http://www.exitmundi.nl/eternity.htm.

please, don't go insane now.

of all the apocalypses on this site, the one youre about to read is probably the most mind-boggling of them all.

HintOfLime

Plus, I'm pretty sure after all that time ALL the milk will go sour, and ALL the cookies will be stale.

- Lime