Posts by cattails

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Trying to annul your baptism, WT says forget about it.

by cattails in

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the koolaid wt issue for february has an interesting article about when your baptism can be considered invalid.but the main thrust of the article is aimed at making it super clear that if you were present at your bapt.

talk and answered the two questions then forget about it, elders are put on notice to not let anyone off the hook.but... if you were committing a serious sin and hid it at the time of your baptism, then it was invalid, and point is, they'd still announce you not being "one of j.w.s" so if you plead your case to walk away from the wt saying you didn't know what you were getting into, it will do no good, but it will be grounds for an announcement.just ol' mother wt tightening up loose ends.

cattails

How do they know how you answered the 2 questions? What if you claim you said "no"? What would the legal consequences be?

---and minimus added---

So if you were never a JW in the first place, you shouldn't be shunned.

Well the counsel from the QFR is that elders should go ahead as if the

person understood what he/she was getting into... that is the baptismal pool,

if the candidates went ahead and took the dip then they were confirming this as their

publicly shown decision for everyone to see... so if it's invalid they're announced

as not being one of JW's and that gets you shunned just the same.

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The tone and voice of the WTBTS publications/writings

by HappyGuy in

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i hope this doesn't sound too strange.

the first wtbts book that i read was the studies in the scriptures.

my grandfather gave my favorite cousin the entire set when we were both around 12. we read these books cover to cover like they were comic books.

cattails

Snarky is all I get in conversing with them

You said it WH, "snarky" plus I'll add a lot of "malarky" in them ol' tomes and newer bound volumes.

It also creeps me out how Russell used the Royal We, when talking about just himself (I bought CD with PDFs of his books and WT articles), he represented everyone and everything in his own mind he was a "plural" what a royal ego that guy, and some say it was due to humility, yeah right. He uses the plural to seem like he's talking from having a lot of power and followers who agree with him, the psychology underwrites his feeble attempts to seem humble. The man had a big ego that's clear from his volumes and WT articles.

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Trying to annul your baptism, WT says forget about it.

by cattails in

jw
friends

the koolaid wt issue for february has an interesting article about when your baptism can be considered invalid.but the main thrust of the article is aimed at making it super clear that if you were present at your bapt.

talk and answered the two questions then forget about it, elders are put on notice to not let anyone off the hook.but... if you were committing a serious sin and hid it at the time of your baptism, then it was invalid, and point is, they'd still announce you not being "one of j.w.s" so if you plead your case to walk away from the wt saying you didn't know what you were getting into, it will do no good, but it will be grounds for an announcement.just ol' mother wt tightening up loose ends.

cattails

The koolaid WT issue for February has an interesting article about when your baptism can be considered invalid.

But the main thrust of the article is aimed at making it super clear that if you were present at your Bapt. talk and answered the two questions then forget about it, elders are put on notice to not let anyone off the hook.

But... If you were committing a serious sin and hid it at the time of your baptism, then it was invalid, and point is, they'd still announce you not being "one of J.W.s" so if you plead your case to walk away from the WT saying you didn't know what you were getting into, it will do no good, but it will be grounds for an announcement.

Just Ol' Mother WT tightening up loose ends.

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Just had to share!

by coffee_black in

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my son sent this pic of my youngest granddaughter, bailey (20 months old) all dressed up in her arielle costume... made me giggle!.

coffee .

cattails

Definitely cute, both of them!

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All You Apostates are EVIL READ!!

by DubR in

first off lmao, i was just joking by my title guys.

im only 24yrs old and i like to have fun!

anyway, this is my very first post on this wonderful site.

cattails

baaaa

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What is the WORST witness social function you went to and WHY?

by creativhoney in

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my sister called me tonight, and reminded me of this, i had forgotten.

- there was an engagement party and the whole cong was invited.

- the fourth of six kids, and it was in a function room with no bar.. everyone was allowed one glass of wine and no one was allowed to bring any.

cattails

Went to a pioneer dinner put on by the Service Overseer whose wife cooked a turkey dinner where the turkey was just about raw.

They loved the raw meats, both of them on some high protein diet, the turkey was barely warm and dripping with pink juice.

I almost threw up. Only ate the dessert brownies and carrot cake. After the turkey I could barely keep that down.

Uggh, I just threw up a little in my mouth just thinking about that night.

Retch shmetch kvetch!

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I've had enough of this place

by Psychotic Parrot in

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i hate the watchtower.

and the governing body are the lowest lifeforms ever to crawl out of the devil's anus.

but the world really is no better & neither are ex-jdubs, despite their character building experience.. the watchtower and all other religions are pointless scumbag rackets.

cattails

If someone posts a desperate message like PsyP's. it's not right for some folks to poke fun at it.

I hope the best for PsyP. and that he's just dumping this forum and all it's ugliness and not life in general.

Even when things get so bad you feel like you're swimming in a cesspool, there's always a good soul who'll

extend a hand and get dirty to pull you out, messy or not we all suffer and I am in awe of people who are

trained to help folks out of depression and emotional pain. I don't know how they do their stuff, but I know

they have the training and the willingness to help. This world is too full of pain and of sick minds like the

farce who shot people in Fort Hood. We need real heroes who will help those in need, who are hurting and

need serious help from qualified counselors.

PsyP if you're still reading these posts I pray and hope you'll find someone who can be your hero, to help

pull you out of the deep pits of despair we fall into in our desperate lives. There are people who can help

and who want to help. I wish I could help more, but I just don't know what to do or say except I know that

there's help available. Please know there are good people all over, including in this forum who care and

who want the best for you and others.

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2012: Doomsday

by cattails in

just saw the 2008 movie called "2012: doomsday" by faithfilms.. what a waste of time and a waste of a dvd!!!.

here's the plot if one can call it that:.

"the final day on the mayan calendar finds four faithful strangers convening at an ancient temple in the heart of mexico in this apocalyptic thriller starring cliff de young and dale midkiff.

cattails

The film maker responsible for the 2012: Doomsday (2008) movie is FAITH FIMS http://www.faithfilms.cc/

This fundie outfit says on their website:

" Faith Films is a new production and distribution company dedicated to creating exciting films that honestly portray subjects, themes, and people of faith.

By producing high quality, entertaining, mainstream films with all of the resources, effects, and magic of Hollywood, Faith Films will present our positive message to the largest possible audience."

So their newest movie is "Countdown: Jerusalem" and goes like this:

A journalist searches for her daughter as a series of catastrophic disasters push a destabilized society toward the brink of global war.

Their movies are charged with Fundamentalist Christian content, there's lots of references to prayer, to the cross, to Jesus etc.

If the WT makes money out of people's fear of an Armageddon Doomsday, folks like these fundamentalists are really surpassing the WT on the fear mongering frenzy.

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2012: Doomsday

by cattails in

just saw the 2008 movie called "2012: doomsday" by faithfilms.. what a waste of time and a waste of a dvd!!!.

here's the plot if one can call it that:.

"the final day on the mayan calendar finds four faithful strangers convening at an ancient temple in the heart of mexico in this apocalyptic thriller starring cliff de young and dale midkiff.

cattails

Just saw the 2008 movie called "2012: Doomsday" by FAITHFILMS.

What a waste of time and a waste of a DVD!!!

Here's the plot if one can call it that:

"The final day on the Mayan calendar finds four faithful strangers convening at an ancient temple in the heart of Mexico in this apocalyptic thriller starring Cliff De Young and Dale Midkiff. Centuries ago, the Mayans set a date for the end of time: December 21, 2012. Now that date is upon us, and NASA scientists have noted that a catastrophic polar shift is about to occur. Could it be that an ancient Mexican temple holds the key to unlocking the secret that could protect humankind from total extinction? ~ Jason Buchanan, All Movie Guide"

Crappy movie, very very crappy.

There's another 2012 film that's being released soon and features a big tsunami over the Himalayas and the earth opening up as this plane tries to take off, better effects than the Doomsday version, but I hope it has more of a story line. The merchandising of this new 2009 movie is whacko, really... read the write up from Wikipedia:

"A movie called 2012 , directed by Roland Emmerich and starring the actors John Cusack , Danny Glover , Chiwetel Ejiofor , Amanda Peet , Thandie Newton , Oliver Platt and Woody Harrelson is scheduled for release on November 13, 2009. On November 12, 2008, the studio released the first teaser trailer for 2012 that showed a megatsunami surging over the Himalayas and interlaced a purportedly scientific message suggesting that the world would end in 2012, and that the world's governments were not preparing its population for the event. The trailer ended with a message to viewers to "find out the truth" by searching "2012" on search engines. The Guardian criticized the marketing effectiveness as "deeply flawed" and associated it with "websites that make even more spurious claims about 2012". [83]

The studio also launched a viral marketing website operated by the fictional Institute for Human Continuity, where filmgoers could register for a lottery number to be part of a small population that would be rescued from the global destruction. [84] The fictitious website lists the Nibiru collision, a galactic alignment, and increased solar activity among its possible doomsday scenarios. [85] David Morrison of NASA has received over 1000 inquiries from people who thought the website was genuine and has condemned it, saying "I've even had cases of teenagers writing to me saying they are contemplating suicide because they don't want to see the world end. I think when you lie on the internet and scare children in order to make a buck, that is ethically wrong." [86] "

So what are you thinking about these 2012 Mayan prediction ripoffs?

Are you going to spend time and money to see either one of the movies?

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Alright...anybody like hip hop?

by AwSnap in

ok, so i just posted the stevie b 1980's version of spring love on the thread "cheeziest" songs.

but i just found this version & could see myself gittin' down n dirrrty wit it .

what are some of your favorite hip hop songs?.

cattails

Posts by cattails

You said it WH, "snarky" plus I'll add a lot of "malarky" in them ol' tomes and newer bound volumes.

The koolaid WT issue for February has an interesting article about when your baptism can be considered invalid.

But the main thrust of the article is aimed at making it super clear that if you were present at your Bapt. talk and answered the two questions then forget about it, elders are put on notice to not let anyone off the hook.

Just Ol' Mother WT tightening up loose ends.

Definitely cute, both of them!

Hip Hop Rap is Crap!