Thanks Shamus100. I'd love a pint.
I feel trapped sometimes, other times I feel like I just need to wait it out.
It must be like being in prison, except if you misbehave they kick you out.
Right and ready for a second pint.
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you should have heard when people were singing one of the updated songs.. they've changed the third line's tune and words .. it was almost complete silence as people tried to figure out what on earth they were supposed to sing.. .
do other religions change lyrics of songs like that or is it only jws whose beliefs change and even the songs they sing need updating?.
Thanks Shamus100. I'd love a pint.
I feel trapped sometimes, other times I feel like I just need to wait it out.
It must be like being in prison, except if you misbehave they kick you out.
Right and ready for a second pint.
.
you should have heard when people were singing one of the updated songs.. they've changed the third line's tune and words .. it was almost complete silence as people tried to figure out what on earth they were supposed to sing.. .
do other religions change lyrics of songs like that or is it only jws whose beliefs change and even the songs they sing need updating?.
You should have heard when people were singing one of the updated songs.
They've changed the third line's tune and words .
It was almost complete silence as people tried to figure out what on earth they were supposed to sing.
Do other religions change lyrics of songs like that or is it only JWs whose beliefs change and even the songs they sing need updating?
so as not to hijack other threads, i still can't understand why people keep referring to the new, "members only" watchtower as "secret?".
if you go to the meeting, you will get a copy.
if you have a family member, you can get a copy.
Changeling: "My witness parents live with me. Dad's an elder. No, I can't get a study WT. I go in his room when he's at the meetings if I want to read something I've heard of here."
they have caught up with my sis, they want her to come to a meeting on monday.
she says she is going to just go and blag.
- even attend a few meetings if necessary.
If she's toast already then why not make the most out of it?
Bring on the peanut butter and jam! Let'em have it and bring lots of questions.
If they say that several people have reported she no longer believes she can say...
Well, I've asked questions, I've let myself get weak in my personal study and I need some help
answering questions, I just have questions, and it seems wrong to question. Could you answer
some of my questions right here and now? (Use some of the questions from V's videos)
And record the whole thing, bring an iPod and record the whole thing.
Also practice with someone before hand. Practice your answers.
Sound indignant and if you need to stretch what you say
remember they're not entitled to the truth if they
won't admit what the real truth is.
did you find yourself disappointed in your life as a jehovah's witness?.
Did you find yourself disappointed in your life as a Jehovah's Witness?
No, not disappointed per se. But I do feel there's been good and bad in my life as a JW.
I'm disappointed in the people I thought would be more loving and Christian, but I found
that many JWs I knew when younger, as I grew up, I saw more and more of their flaws.
It's like along with the wrinkles of aging in their familiar faces I also saw the hypocrisy, the
mean spiritedness, the Lording it over others, the holier than thou attitudes... this was
truly disappointing. But then again there are people who I love dearly and I know deep
in my heart that they are victims in the truest sense of the word, but despite this fact
they try to do good for others no matter what. These people encouraged me and continue
to encourage me today.
is it blackmail if i send very incriminating pics to someone without any words?.
Can you give more details of what the photos are about and why you're sending them?
a couple of months ago we wondered where bonafide had disappeared to...http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183305/1/the-guy-that-claimed-he-was-going-to-bring-down-the-wtbts.
he had left us with the titillating suggestion he was up to something big to bring down the wtbts.but did he go further undercover?
did he only end up being a troll and nothing more?
But he did make some brazen moves and his tongue may have gotten him in trouble.
Do you think he may have been outted?
pioneer hour change is legit.
letters are being mailed out soon to all congregations for announcement in early october right before the tract campaign starts.. .
elimination of circuit overseers.
• Pioneer hour change is legit. Letters are being mailed out soon to all congregations for announcement in early October right before the tract campaign starts.
Elimination of Circuit Overseers
• Implementation date 2011 service year
• Many District Overseer’s and some “Circuit Overseers” are getting along in years and slowing down. There is a need for several more suitable replacements.
• There is a need to prepare additional brothers to serve as “overseers” in case of persecution and isolation.
• Presiding Overseers will be trained for additional responsibilities at Patterson “Elders School”.
• After all Presiding Overseer’s have been trained and before this is implemented there will be a Kingdom Ministry school for all Elder’s.
• Various Presiding Overseers from around each circuit will visit the various congregations in the circuit.
• The visit of the “Overseer” will begin Thursday evening. Another meeting will be held Saturday evening and the public meeting will be on Sunday.
• The “Overseer” will share in service Friday, Saturday, and Sunday with the congregation.
• Additionally the “Overseer” will have a meeting with the local elders and pioneers.
• Congregations will receive three visits per year instead of just two.
• Circuit Overseers can be reassigned as “District Overseers” to fill the need of replacements.
• Other Circuit Overseers may be reassigned as “Special Pioneers” to assist in the field.
• Since there will be ample “Circuit Overseers” to replace the needed “District Overseers” the size of the district will be lowered from about 13-15 circuits to around 10 per district. This will enable the “District Overseer” to spend more time with the circuits.
• There will be more brothers trained to shoulder the responsibility of oversight when persecution breaks out.
• Instead of having one “Circuit Overseer” assigned to 20 congregations various brothers will be familiar with the needs of different congregations, in order to care for these congregations during the above mentioned difficult times.
• If a select few congregations became isolated for one reason or another, brothers who are already familiar with overseeing the needs of entire congregations would already be available to assist.
• If one “Overseer” was persecuted, arrested, etc. there would already be other qualified brothers to take the lead.
Expansion at Patterson
• Will start some time after upcoming Wallkill project is finished.
• Substantial plans have already been filed with Putnam County and Patterson City to obtain needed permits, and the okay has been given to start the project.
• Several additional office and residence buildings are to be built. The plan is to build as high as the government will allow; likely 5 or 6 floor buildings.
• Plan is to have HIS, Treasurer’s Office, Convention Office, and other smaller departments move there first.
• One new office building will be exclusively used by Governing Body, United States Branch Committee, Service, Publishing (Legal), and Writing Departments.
• Teaching Department will be in new building with Audio Video services with largely expanded studio from what they have right now.
Expansion at Wallkill
• Likely will start in 2009.
• After completion plan to have the wood, machine, furniture, etc. shops and electrical, plumbing, and other mechanical training will move to Wallkill.
• Departments that coordinate RBC’s, KH building and other expansion projects will move to Wallkill.
• http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071129/NEWS/711290360
Brooklyn News
• Dumbo project in Brooklyn on Jay St has been scrapped.
• Buildings will continue to be sold. Residents will be moved to the larger buildings.
• Plan for eventually selling all buildings in Brooklyn between 2015 – 2020.
a couple of months ago we wondered where bonafide had disappeared to...http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183305/1/the-guy-that-claimed-he-was-going-to-bring-down-the-wtbts.
he had left us with the titillating suggestion he was up to something big to bring down the wtbts.but did he go further undercover?
did he only end up being a troll and nothing more?
this is made as a reply to a facebook question (not by me) as to why the current president is not of the anointed:.
why is your new president not anonted even tho the watchtower says all presidents should be announted ???
as for the current watchtower presendent; you see back when bro.
The lawyers surely can get them to do whatever they want at this point.
That's a very good point you make MadSweeney, I tend to agree with you that the lawyers are
behind the reins in a lot of GB decisions, or so it would seem looking back on what's been happening
with abuse cases, etc.