i've started considering myself one of the members of the conscious class.
and this post is aimed at those still in and feeling trapped.. at matthew 5:3 jesus said: happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.".
that being the case i'm going to be partaking of the emblems this march 30th, god willing.. if you're still in and your eyes have been opened, if you are conscious of a spiritual need within you that the wt isn't recognizing.... then praise god and christ and keep remembering the ransom sacrifice that purchased your salvation and that for all people.. if you're of the "conscious class" partake this year.
Thanks so much Perry. I fully agree about Jesus being the Mediator for all people and that his sacrifice brought salvation to all putting faith in him and his resurrection.
I appreciate your words of faith so much. Thank you.
As I mentioned in another post:
It may very well be a means of telling the GB that there are a lot of "Awake & Conscious" Witnesses among the throngs sitting in KH's all over.
a few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
Hi PP, I'd like to ask about statements you made in an earlier post:
2 elders and the servant involved in what the Society laughably refers to as "confidential" work.
Could you give us some examples of this "confidential" work you and the others were involved in, like a specific reference, please don't misunderstand my intentions I'm not questioning the work, just have no idea what's involved from further descriptions and details will perhaps give me an "aha" moment on this point. Thanks.
All 4 were disfellowshipped for apostasy - the MS went first, then the three elders in due time, one of whom was a partaker of the emblems.
Could you tell us if the work involved lead this brother to partake of the emblems. Like for example did the things he learned from reading the Scriptures develop in him the want to partake. Sort of like what Ed Dunlap realized (which I read in CoC). Of course if you aren't the brother involved you may only be able to give an approximation of what he had in mind if anything. But you must have spoken with one another, if not before the DF'ing then perhaps afterwards.
I'd love to be able to hear more from you and the other brothers involved if you can encourage them to take part in this forum.
I much appreciate your time and your willingness to share your thoughts and experience here.
--Cattails
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your inner knowledge is simply fascinating.
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It seems that the only options lefts for the conscious class are limited to leaving by fading, DF/DA, stay captive, play undercover apostate, or die in it. That’s it.
There may yet be another way for the "Conscious Class" to assert itself. It will take a gutsy approach and face possible reproach.
That is to partake of the emblems this March 30th, recognizing the ransoming sacrifice of the only Mediator between God and all people.
The WT leadership will be forced into making some quick re-thinking due to the ever increasing "Awake & Conscious" throngs actively attending KHs all over.
If you consider yourself of those in the "Conscious Class" take the next step, take the emblems, let the GB know their overlapping generations have had their day.
i've started considering myself one of the members of the conscious class.
and this post is aimed at those still in and feeling trapped.. at matthew 5:3 jesus said: happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.".
that being the case i'm going to be partaking of the emblems this march 30th, god willing.. if you're still in and your eyes have been opened, if you are conscious of a spiritual need within you that the wt isn't recognizing.... then praise god and christ and keep remembering the ransom sacrifice that purchased your salvation and that for all people.. if you're of the "conscious class" partake this year.
I've started considering myself one of the members of the conscious class. And this post is aimed at those still in and feeling trapped.
At Matthew 5:3 Jesus said: “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them."
That being the case I'm going to be partaking of the emblems this March 30th, God willing.
If you're still in and your eyes have been opened, if you are conscious of a spiritual need within you that the WT isn't recognizing...
Then praise God and Christ and keep remembering the ransom sacrifice that purchased your salvation and that for all people.
If you're of the "Conscious Class" partake this year. Be brave, be strong, be a Christian unashamed of the Good News.
Take of the emblems and declare you're "conscious of your spiritual need" as Matthew 5:3 brings out.
thank you for joining this site.
your inner knowledge is simply fascinating.
please tell us more!!!!
Wow, that video on the WCG becoming Grace Church International was definitely jawdropping.
Hey, PP, what would you say the chances would be of the WTS ever becoming a miracle of that sort?
For one I wouldn't think that the GB is gutsy enough like the Tkach's to do something like that, the
money and power are too much to loose for them.
One more thought about the video, the shake up of the WCG left some off-shoots just as legalistic
as Arrmstrongism was, and some even more legalistic, and they took some of the flock with them. Wow!
What would this forbode for the WTS? Would the Mediator issue wake up enough people for a mass schism?
when misery loves company.... .
it is a tongue in cheek look at going door to door.
highly acclaimed in jw e-mail circles.. this links to a video by jw brother who has a bad day in service but his bible student makes progress so i guess for him it isn't so bad.http://gravytrain5.com/movies/bad_day.html .
LOL! thanks for your comments on the video.
The brothers and sisters really seem to get a kick out of this.
The exaggeration is so obvious and that's what makes it funny.
The householder who punches him in the head is when I laughed out loud,
not that I like violence or anything but I'd be ready to do a head-slap (V-8 style)
on the brother's head for being such a dimwit. There are a lot of questions left
unanswered. What happened to his car? How did the SUV owner get the dog poop stink
out of his vehicle? Will the newbie also be similarly cursed as his teacher in field service?
Will there be a sequel?
--I frankly hope not.
:-)
thank you for joining this site.
your inner knowledge is simply fascinating.
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I keep wondering why Paul Apollos signs his post with the initials 'PP'.
I do find constant references to the Bible tiresome.
I find it funny this was said by a Gravatar who looks like a shocked purple triangle with a brain.
This should be a logo for the Conscious Class . Whaddaya say? Nice avatar GromitSK.
i went last week and took it after studying on my own for months.
i thought i needed some help so i went and signed up for ged classes.
they test you to see where you are.
when misery loves company.... .
it is a tongue in cheek look at going door to door.
highly acclaimed in jw e-mail circles.. this links to a video by jw brother who has a bad day in service but his bible student makes progress so i guess for him it isn't so bad.http://gravytrain5.com/movies/bad_day.html .
When misery loves company...
It is a tongue in cheek look at going door to door. Highly acclaimed in JW e-mail circles.
This links to a video by JW brother who has a bad day in service but his Bible Student makes progress so I guess for him it isn't so bad.
"i believe in one god, and no more; and i hope for happiness beyond this life.
i believe the equality of man, and i believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy.
but, lest it should be supposed that i believe many other things in addition to these, i shall, in the progress of this work, declare the things i do not believe, and my reasons for not believing them.
I carry a KIT.
The Kingdom Interlinear Translation.
It is published by the WT and has the NWT Christian Scriptures on the margin so it's an all right, approved version.
I started using it when the KM came out in 2007 about not meeting to learn Greek in order to check the accuracy of the NWT text.
It figures that if they have to warn about it there must be something there, it's going slow, but I'm enjoying my study research into Koine Greek.
