Posts by cattails

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The CONSCIOUS CLASS what does it mean to you, and do you consider yourself one of them?

by cattails in

there's a few posts where the term "conscious class" has been in just recently.. i'm wondering if it means the same to most jws and exjws who post here.. what does the "conscious class" mean to you?.

ok, no funny business about 'being conscious' as in awake and fully cafeinated.. if you could answer the two questions it may help some here to understand what.

this term is a lot better.

cattails

There's a few posts where the term "conscious class" has been in just recently.

I'm wondering if it means the same to most JWs and exJWs who post here.

What does the "conscious class" mean to you?

Do you consider yourself one of them?

Ok, no funny business about 'being conscious' as in awake and fully cafeinated.

If you could answer the two questions it may help some here to understand what

this term is a lot better. I consider myself one of them. It is strange that some in

my home congregation may also be of the 'conscious class'... There was an

estimate someplace that said up to a third of all active JWs are of the 'conscious

class'. That would be hard to believe. But it would be great if that were so.

What do you think? And thanks for your answers.

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GOT A FRIEND REQUEST FROM AN ELDER ON FACEBOOK!!!!!

by Blue Grass in

damn!

cattails

(Maybe the elder you're refering to is me :-)

Hey Oppostate,

That kinda blew my mind too! Not many people throw the term "conscious class" around

referring to the JW's who are still attending meetings but are conscious, that is they

are aware that the WT isn't God's Channel on Earth and are also aware of all the false

teachings that enslave the R&F Witnesses. You could at least tell us what country you're in???

Anyway, good to see you frequenting this site I've liked your style since you started posting.

Keep it up!

-Cattails

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Question

by is there help out there in

jw
friends

is there any food jw are not allowed to eat besides muff burgers..

cattails

not allowed

Wow! I read that too fast and thought it said "not swallowed".

Talk about Freudian slips of the tongue!

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Memorial Attendance: "What's Going On?"

by sweet pea in

jw
friends

spoke to my dad today who attended the beckenham (london/kent) congregation's memorial - he said that for the first time the attendance was seriously down - 203 as opposed to last year's 250 and that penge (congregation that shares the hall) had a similar experience.

it's called the internet dad.. can we have a roll call of numbers from those that attended please?

(or if it's been covered already, a link?).

cattails

I visited a congregation back East.

I asked about the numbers and they had 30+

less than last year. The brother explained that

they were the second congregation meeting at

the KH that evening and so a lot of people go

to the first Memorial held that evening because

of it being earlier... Funny thing is that the

attendance at the first meeting I found out

was less than at the second meeting!

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At a 2 day assembly ...the point that the brother spoke about that drove me mad....."don't hug your husband, wife or child during prayer".

by crazy2try in

i attended one day of a two day assembly and did ok until the very last talk.

the brother was from bethal and well jw's pay closer attention to their talks, cause that is when some new info is given,,,right.

well anyways i lost focus and began to daydream, cause it became one of those talks that just talks about wasting time.

cattails

Nothing about Facebook, just a warning about the internet and

social networking sites, but no site name dropping at the CA I went to.

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Are some of the anointed ones now already ressurrected and gone to heaven as the society claim?

by Truthexplorer in

frankly, i am a little bit confused by this teaching.

well when i read 1 thes 4:13-18, it contradicts what the society claim.. paul wrote -.

moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.

cattails

This is an idea pertinent to another topic I read in another forum (from Ros at ChannelC), she says:

"Do we not all know that the Watchtower teaches that the 144,000 "saints" will rule as kings with Jesus Christ for 1000 years?"

Then she goes on to point out the problem with the Watchtower teaching:

1) Christ returned in 1914.

2) Wasn't it 1919 when the "annointed" who had died began to be resurrected?

3) In a little more than 4 years, Christ will have been reigning for 100 years.

4) The thousand years does not begin until after Armageddon.

5) Some of the "annointed" do not die until some time after Armageddon according to the Revelation book.

6) Jehovah's Witnesses say these numbers are literal (144,000 and 1000 years).

And she arrives at this conclusion:

"If Christ began reigning in 1914, and not all of the 144,000 have begun reigning, nor will until after Armageddon,
then at no time can it be said that Christ + 144,000 reigned for a literal 1000 years. Even if Armageddon occurred tomorrow,
Christ would have to reign for at least 1096 years Himself. The longer Armageddon is put off, and the more JWs who join
the annointed rank, ... well, you get the picture."

http://www.channelc.org/

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New Light on Fat people

by RR in

glutton...fails to show love for jehovah.

is food a big thing in his life?

if in the presence of others, does he selfishly ignore their needs and take more than his fair share?

cattails

I could lose some pounds myself,

but what can you do RR,

with such a fat head?

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For born ins- what tipped you off it was wrong

by teela(2) in

jw
friends

at a young age i remember watching tv and commenting why is the red cross always helping people and we don't.

the second big one is if the witnesses only started up in 1890 - 1900 did jehovah not have anyone else doing the preaching work?.

as a child i don't think we think about theological problems so what tipped you off?

cattails

As a kid I wondered why all the Bible characters had beards but not the brothers at the Hall

didn't they have shaving in Egypt? Why did Jehovah tell the men not to shave the extremities of

their facial hair but all the brothers were clean shaven? Maybe it was like arm pits and legs for

ladies, in the olden days Hebrew women probably didn't shave legs and arm pits either. Funny

things a young mind can think of while bored out of your mind and made to sit still at the KH.

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Tea Partiers Say They Would Absolutely Abolish Social Security

by sammielee24 in

jw
friends

please, please, please let the libertarians, republicans and their offshoot the tea party, run on this issue.

oh my heavens what a joy it would be to line up all the runners and tell half of the americans - the vast majority of those who actually live on their social security, that they want to take it away.

abolish it.

cattails

All I want to say is that bunch of tea-bagging New World Nazi partiers better stay out of my social security!

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Memorial 2010 Your Experiences

by scotinsw in

just got back from memorial.

only went so that i could say to my parents that i had gone and to remind myself why i left.. oh my word!!!

it was sooooo painful.. got there a bit late - it was a couple of minutes into the talk.

cattails

My partaking tonight was done in full knowledge that I believe in Christ as my Savior, I partook of the emblems in a quiet and dignified manner.

No one questioned me. I'm glad I went and followed the command to remember his Sacrifice, which covers over all those who put faith in Him as the promised Messiah.