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Oh yes, the main reason for my "happiness" is that:
Everything Jesus Christ said would happen, .... is really happening!
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Jesus Christ is awesome!
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abe
in the light of the following promises made by jehovah, how can there be an armageddon?.
genesis 8:21: ... so jehovah said in his heart: never again will i cursethe groundon mans account, for the inclination of the heart of man is bad from his youth up;and never again will i strike down every living thing as i have done.. genesis 9:15, 16: and i will certainly remember my covenant that i made between me and you and every living creature of every kind;and never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all flesh.and the rainbow will occur in the cloud, and i will certainly see it and remember the everlasting covenant between god and every living creature of every kindon the earth.. does it make sense to say "i will never kill you by a flood, next time i will use fire?
just asking.. .
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Oh yes, the main reason for my "happiness" is that:
Everything Jesus Christ said would happen, .... is really happening!
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Jesus Christ is awesome!
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abe
in the light of the following promises made by jehovah, how can there be an armageddon?.
genesis 8:21: ... so jehovah said in his heart: never again will i cursethe groundon mans account, for the inclination of the heart of man is bad from his youth up;and never again will i strike down every living thing as i have done.. genesis 9:15, 16: and i will certainly remember my covenant that i made between me and you and every living creature of every kind;and never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all flesh.and the rainbow will occur in the cloud, and i will certainly see it and remember the everlasting covenant between god and every living creature of every kindon the earth.. does it make sense to say "i will never kill you by a flood, next time i will use fire?
just asking.. .
able - are you happy at the prospect of billions of men women and children being killed by your god?
Cofty,
The worst outcome I can read from the scripture posted above which refers to Armageddon is; .... "shamefullness".
The best outcome is happiness.
The audience is "the kings of the earth".
Have you been involved in some kind of brain washing religion that convinced you it said something else?
Read it again.
Maybe you've been asleep.
Wake up!
15 "Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one that stays awake and keeps his outer garments, that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness."
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abe
in the light of the following promises made by jehovah, how can there be an armageddon?.
genesis 8:21: ... so jehovah said in his heart: never again will i cursethe groundon mans account, for the inclination of the heart of man is bad from his youth up;and never again will i strike down every living thing as i have done.. genesis 9:15, 16: and i will certainly remember my covenant that i made between me and you and every living creature of every kind;and never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all flesh.and the rainbow will occur in the cloud, and i will certainly see it and remember the everlasting covenant between god and every living creature of every kindon the earth.. does it make sense to say "i will never kill you by a flood, next time i will use fire?
just asking.. .
Scared of Armageddon?
Nope, in fact I am really, really happy about Armageddon:
Revelation 16:13-16
And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. 15 "Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one that stays awakeand keeps his outer garments, that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness." 16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Ma·ged´on.
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Show me where it says I should be scared.
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abe
as hillary clinton might say, what difference does it make???.
even if god's kingdom was established in 1914, why is that such a big deal?
other than unprovable actions in heaven, what can jws say is the significance of it all...with a straight face?.
1914, and all that Watchtower has said about it, has been a complete failure.
So Jesus Christ's Kingdom has been undermined by injustices, corruption, adultery and even pedophilia?
Jesus Christ's Kingdom is full of lawlessness!
Matthew 13:40-43
Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. 41 The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen.
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Jesus Christ's kingdom has been ruined!
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Daniel 2:44
"And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;
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So why doesn't God set up a kingdom that isn't filled with reprehensible, wicked, hypocritical slimeballs?
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Revelation 21:25-27
And its gates will not be closed at all by day, for night will not exist there. 26 And they will bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it. 27 But anything not sacred and anyone that carries on a disgusting thing and a lie will in no way enter into it; only those written in the Lamb’s scroll of life [will].
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Everything Jesus Christ said would happen, is really happening!
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From reading the posts above it seems that most people are measuring what they see happening in this world by some kind of secular thing that exists only in their imagination.
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The rational thing to do is measure these things by what Jesus Christ said.
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Let him that has ears listen.
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Jesus Christ is awesome!
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abe
the entire organization shoves all its chips into the center of the table on one bet: they are the only mouthpiece of god on earth.. what are the odds to this bet?.
the statistic for christian denominations make jw's 1 out of 41,000 opinions.. a chance of 1 in 41 thousand is a tough bet.. _________________________.
if abc tv broadcasts shark tank and your tv receives mister ed .
Let's be rational for a moment, shall we?
Terry,
Sure!
You are talking about ODDS.
The only way I can "rationally" see to measure those ODDS is against what it says in the Bible and what is REALLY happeining in the world.
Disputing the veracity of the bible is not a rational thing to do after asking about "the ODDS".
Unless there is some other Non-Christian book that measures the ODDS of a Non-Christian religion being true.
abe
the entire organization shoves all its chips into the center of the table on one bet: they are the only mouthpiece of god on earth.. what are the odds to this bet?.
the statistic for christian denominations make jw's 1 out of 41,000 opinions.. a chance of 1 in 41 thousand is a tough bet.. _________________________.
if abc tv broadcasts shark tank and your tv receives mister ed .
Quiz: What does the name JESUS mean?
Terry,
Watch the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TN1B1V2-_g
Pay special attention to how he pronounces Joshua and Johnathan.
Translated from Hebrew into English and yet they start with the letter "J".
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....... Now the ODDS are even better than pretty good!
abe
the entire organization shoves all its chips into the center of the table on one bet: they are the only mouthpiece of god on earth.. what are the odds to this bet?.
the statistic for christian denominations make jw's 1 out of 41,000 opinions.. a chance of 1 in 41 thousand is a tough bet.. _________________________.
if abc tv broadcasts shark tank and your tv receives mister ed .
There is no other World Wide religion where the leaders claim to be rulers of the House of Israel, sons of Jacob and yet, treat their followers with such cruelty, corruption and disdain. While saying; "Jehovah is with us" and that it is they who will escape the coming calamities (great tribulation). All this happening immediately before the final part of the days, the conclusion of this system of things:
Micah 3:1-4:1
And I proceeded to say: "Hear, please, YOU heads of Jacob and YOU commanders of the house of Israel. Is it not YOUR business to know justice? 2 YOU haters of what is good and lovers of badness, tearing off their skin from people and their organism from off their bones; 3 YOU the ones who have also eaten the organism of my people, and have stripped their very skin from off them, and smashed to pieces their very bones, and crushed [them] to pieces like what is in a widemouthed pot and like flesh in the midst of a cooking pot. 4 At that time they will call to Jehovah for aid, but he will not answer them. And he will conceal his face from them in that time, according as they committed badness in their dealings.5"This is what Jehovah has said against the prophets that are causing my people to wander, that are biting with their teeth and that actually call out, ‘Peace!’ that, when anyone does not put [something] into their mouths, also actually sanctify war against him, 6 ‘Therefore YOU men will have night, so that there will be no vision; and darkness YOU will have, so as not to practice divination. And the sun will certainly set upon the prophets, and the day must get dark upon them. 7 And the visionaries will have to be ashamed, and the diviners will certainly be disappointed. And they will have to cover over the mustache, all of them, for there is no answer from God.’"8And, on the other hand, I myself have become full of power, with the spirit of Jehovah, and of justice and mightiness, in order to tell to Jacob his revolt and to Israel his sin.9Hear, please, this, YOU head ones of the house of Jacob and YOU commanders of the house of Israel, the ones detesting justice and the ones who make even everything that is straight crooked; 10 building Zion with acts of bloodshed and Jerusalem with unrighteousness. 11 Her own head ones judge merely for a bribe, and her own priests instruct just for a price, and her own prophets practice divination simply for money; yet upon Jehovah they keep supporting themselves, saying: "Is not Jehovah in the midst of us? There will come upon us no calamity." 12 Therefore on account of YOU men Zion will be plowed up as a mere field, and Jerusalem herself will become mere heaps of ruins, and the mountain of the house will be as the high places of a forest.4 And it must occur in the final part of the days[that] the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it peoples must stream.
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...................... The ODDS are pretty good!
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abe
the entire organization shoves all its chips into the center of the table on one bet: they are the only mouthpiece of god on earth.. what are the odds to this bet?.
the statistic for christian denominations make jw's 1 out of 41,000 opinions.. a chance of 1 in 41 thousand is a tough bet.. _________________________.
if abc tv broadcasts shark tank and your tv receives mister ed .
What are the ODDS Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY TRUE religion?
There is no other world wide religion that calls on the name of Jehovah.
Jeremiah 12:16-17
"And it must occur that if they will without fail learn the ways of my people in swearing by my name, ‘As Jehovah is alive!’ just as they taught my people to swear by Ba´al, they will also be built up in the midst of my people. 17 But if they will not obey, I will also uproot that nation, uprooting and destroying [it]," is the utterance of Jehovah.
Joel 2:32
And it must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe; for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will prove to be the escaped ones, just as Jehovah has said, and in among the survivors, whom Jehovah is calling."
Acts 2:16-21
On the contrary, this is what was said through the prophet Joel, 17 ‘"And in the last days," God says, "I shall pour out some of my spirit upon every sort of flesh, and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will prophesy and YOUR young men will see visions and YOUR old men will dream dreams; 18 and even upon my men slaves and upon my women slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 And I will give portents in heaven above and signs on earth below, blood and fire and smoke mist; 20 the sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and illustrious day of Jehovah arrives. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved."’
There is no other world wide religion who call themselves by the name of Jehovah:
Acts 15:12-18
After they quit speaking, James answered, saying: "Men, brothers, hear me. 14 Sym´e·on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And with this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 ‘After these things I shall return and rebuild the booth of David that is fallen down; and I shall rebuild its ruins and erect it again, 17 in order that those who remain of the men may earnestly seek Jehovah, together with people of all the nations, people who are called by my name, says Jehovah, who is doing these things, 18 known from of old.’
There is no other world wide religion who excommunicate their brothers through the use of God's actual name; Jehovah:
Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU men who are trembling at his word: "YOUR brothers that are hating YOU, that are excluding YOU by reason of my name, said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part, and they are the ones that will be put to shame."
[Name of person] is no longer a Jehovah's Witness
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The ODDS are pretty good!
abe
why did you become a jw, what particular teachings attracted you to 'the truth' ?.
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in my case (baptized at 20/21) it was the only religion i knew; my mom, her mom, and favorite sister were jw; and the teachings of no hellfire or immortal soul made sense to me.. .
Amazed you left the borg after such a freaky 'coincidence' lol.
yadda,
I didn't leave "the borg", they disfellowshipped me!
There's a difference.
I am still 100% convinced that it was not a coincidence.
There have been too many hundreds of times that similar things have happened since then.
Enough to drive any and all thought of scepticism well beyond reasonable limits.
I am convinced that, I WILL BE BACK:
Romans 9:26
and in the place where it was said to them, ‘YOU are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’"
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[ablebodiedman] is no longer a Jehovah's Witness ----> ‘YOU are not my people'
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I am also convinced that the Governing Body as well as the elders and R&F in the congregation that disfellowshipped me, ARE MY BROTHERS!
Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU men who are trembling at his word: "YOUR brothers that are hating YOU, that are excluding YOU by reason of my name, said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part, and they are the ones that will be put to shame."
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God really does care!
Everything the bible said would happen, is really happening!
abe
why did you become a jw, what particular teachings attracted you to 'the truth' ?.
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in my case (baptized at 20/21) it was the only religion i knew; my mom, her mom, and favorite sister were jw; and the teachings of no hellfire or immortal soul made sense to me.. .
Why did you become a JW, what particular teachings attracted you to 'the truth' ?
It wasn't really because of a particular teaching.
It was because of a circumstance.
Here is the story:
In my mid forties.
Wife was away for a week long trip with our daughter to visit her mother 500km away.
I didn't go because of a project I was in charge of at work.
I had been to a bar on a Friday night and got hammered.
Woke up Saturday morning with a hangover, made a coffee, slumped on the couch and started watching cartoons.
The cartoons finished and a documentary about the Nazi invasion of Warsaw, Poland started.
The documentary was being told by adults who at the time were young teenagers witnessing the invasion.
Their stories were heartbraking.
When the documentary was over I was in tears, I was really shook up.
Don't remember the last time I cried. It was probably when I was a child.
It made me think about the meaning of life in amongst all these atrocious things that have happened.
I came to the conclusion that if there really was a God then he doesn't care.
So I decided to say a prayer.
The only other prayer I had occasionaly said in my past was The Lords Prayer.
I had never said a prayer before a meal although on ocassion I had heard others say one when invited out for dinner.
In the prayer I said to God that if he really exists then why doesn't he care about us.
I told him that he must have seen the things that happened to those people in Warsaw and the fact he did nothing about it proved he did not care.
Immediately after the prayer I realized that I was either living on a planet that happened by accident or living on one created by a God that doesn't care.
There was a knock on my door.
I opened it and saw a young man standing there in a suit.
He said to me; "Do you think God really cares about you".
He then handed me a tract with those same words written in the title.
That's it!
That is why I became a Jehovah's Witness.
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abe