Very well said LL.
I innocently gave out to much information on another forum and regret it to this day.
it has come to my attention that there have been numerous posts on the board asking posters personal questions like:.
where do you live?are you male or female?do you know people from a certain congregation?do you know a certain district overseer or circuit overseer?do you know of certain conflicts in your congregation?post some pictures of where you liveif you are an active or fading jw ...?if you are an active elder ...?there are plenty of other personal type questions that can be used to narrow down who you are.
some may seem quite innocent like the post pictures of where you live but if i post a picture of ottawa but don't want anyone to know i live in ottawa i have just told the internet world where i live.
Very well said LL.
I innocently gave out to much information on another forum and regret it to this day.
if the elders decide to disfellowship someone and after being reinstated it is proved that he didn't commit the wrongdoing,what happens then?do the elders apologise to him?.
Loved Brotherdans comment!! So true.
i had little or no problems with my beliefs as an 18 year old convert to the jehovah's witness religion.
fair enough, there were a few things that i found a bit wacky & odd, but i was on the road to life.
i couldn't give a rats arse about many things.
Jambon,
So beautifully put.
I so agree, I could never ever not be there 100% for my children and I can't be part of an Org that make you choose between them and the people you love. The Org would always lose, as they did in my family.
so i was speaking about some "problems" and "confusion" i had about the wtbs, and while speaking the subject of shunning came up.. .
long story short, my mom said that if i were (theoretically) ever to leave,.
she would still speak to me and have me over and do all the normal things .
Based on my experience she is and isn't.
See, my mom has said the same thing to me over the years especially because at one time she was disfellowshipped and we never shunned her..the only one that did was my older sister who was newly baptized and oh so righteous in them days. It's something my mother never completely forgave nor did my sister ever get over the guilt of doing it.
Fast forward...My family is now inactive and our relationship has completely changed..we went from talking everyday on the phone to maybe a call a week and a text message here and there. What changed? We don't have that main thing in common anymore. I don't want to hear about her meetings and studies and what brother so and so is doing and she really doesn't want to hear about what fun we are having outside the KH. It's sad but it's reality...we change and move apart.
look at the difference in height between your index and ring fingers, palm facing towards you:.
a) they are pretty much the same height.
b) the index finger is taller.
So according to the study I should be a lesbian with no kids and an anger problem..LOL
Thankfully I'm married with 2 children...but the anger thing is pretty on at times :)
Ring finger much taller then index.
arrest in sacramento-area church arson attemptthe associated pressposted: 06/21/2010 07:45:49 am pdtupdated: 06/21/2010 07:45:49 am pdt .
citrus heights, calif.police have arrested a man suspected of setting fire to a sacramento-area jehovah's witness house of worship.
forty-four-year-old jose orduno has been booked on suspicion of criminal threats, possession of a firebomb, attempted arson and other charges.. the jehovah's witness kingdom hall in citrus heights wasn't damaged by sunday morning's fire.
Here is the link...http://cbs13.com/local/jehovah.witness.arson.2.1764591.html
The video should be in the top right corner
arrest in sacramento-area church arson attemptthe associated pressposted: 06/21/2010 07:45:49 am pdtupdated: 06/21/2010 07:45:49 am pdt .
citrus heights, calif.police have arrested a man suspected of setting fire to a sacramento-area jehovah's witness house of worship.
forty-four-year-old jose orduno has been booked on suspicion of criminal threats, possession of a firebomb, attempted arson and other charges.. the jehovah's witness kingdom hall in citrus heights wasn't damaged by sunday morning's fire.
There is a video of him speaking from jail saying he was mad because he was disfellowshipped for touching and kissing and he didn't think that was fair.
arrest in sacramento-area church arson attemptthe associated pressposted: 06/21/2010 07:45:49 am pdtupdated: 06/21/2010 07:45:49 am pdt .
citrus heights, calif.police have arrested a man suspected of setting fire to a sacramento-area jehovah's witness house of worship.
forty-four-year-old jose orduno has been booked on suspicion of criminal threats, possession of a firebomb, attempted arson and other charges.. the jehovah's witness kingdom hall in citrus heights wasn't damaged by sunday morning's fire.
Jun 21, 2010 5:22 pm US/Pacific
A man has been charged with attempted arson and terrorism after he allegedly tried to burn down a place of worship over a dispute with fellow churchgoers.
The Citrus Heights Police Department arrested 44-year-old Jose Louis Orduno Sunday evening after discovering a flammable liquid had been set on fire near the Jehovah Witness Kingdom Hall on the 6900 block of Slyvan Road.
Orduno granted an interview to CBS13 from jail and said he was acting irrationally after a religious dispute with other members of the church, but never intended to burn the building down.
"I was drunk, depressed and mad," Orduno said. "I got some gasoline in my truck, so I put the gasoline around to the Kingdom Hall."
Orduno said he tried to put the fire out when it appeared to be spreading out of control. The Sacramento Metro Fire Department said most of the fuel burned out before it could ignite the building.
The act was sparked by anger that Kingdom hall elders had reprimanded him after he told them he and his girlfriend had become intimate, Orduno said. "They didn't know we were touching, kissing," he added.
That behavior is restricted, according to Orduno, and he was banned from leading Hall activities.
"I was just trying to tell the elders it's not fair, I'm this fellowship," he said.
Investigators said Orduno also threatened fellow churchgoers. Police charged Orduno with felony use of a flammable liquid, attempted arson to a commercial structure, terrorist acts at a religious place of worship and terrorist threats.
thought you'd enjoy:.
http://www.interactivezoo.eu/pesa.html.
So adorable!! I love watching them.
considering the fact we've had so many newbies here i thought it would be good to just open it up to you folks to see how life is going for you since you exited the witnesses ?
it's hard many times to move on- however with lots of ex-witnesses on the board here who have been through similar experiences - perhaps those of us who have been out awhile can give you someideas on how to move on in your post jw life to make it a little easier .
so fire away newbies and recently exited jw 's.
Good days and bad days. Hardest part is losing my very close relationship with my mother. She has less and less to say to me these days and it breaks my heart, but I don't control her and I wont let her control me.
My kids are now in sports and are making new friends, they have been to pizza parties and the movies with "worldly" friends and have came home safe and sound. They seem extremely happy to be normal teenagers.
It's a little harder for my husband and myself we tend to make friends slowly and we really pretty much stick to each other and the kids. We have one neighbor that invites us over to swim and BBQ so we are taking baby steps.
We completely forgot the DC which was a biggie, last year we gave in and went one day. This year didn't give it a thought.
Starting over in your early 40's is interesting, I look forward to what's to come...