Gayle,
"They lose a few members, but don't care, the WTS gets the money, and free-volunteers to build another Hall. "
Sadly that is so true. They will throw anyone under the bus to protect their image and pocket book.
i received an anonymous email over at ex-jw.com that had an attached legal filing.
the first couple of pages seemed to be standard legal filings, but the rest of the pages looked like standard typed documentation (not in numbered double-spaced legal format.
) i'm not quite sure what to make of it, so wonder if anyone here has heard of it.
Gayle,
"They lose a few members, but don't care, the WTS gets the money, and free-volunteers to build another Hall. "
Sadly that is so true. They will throw anyone under the bus to protect their image and pocket book.
in my case it was my best freind in the cong who decided to encourage me to answer up at the wt by... refusing to talk to me afterwards if i hadn't answered up!
!.
Wait on Jehovah he'll make sure all those elders who treated to so unloving after your daughter was molested are taken care of eventually. Then look forward to the new system where you wont remember what happened.
since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.
Hi Quillsky,
Did you read all of this before posting that? http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/114941/1/Healing-Words-a-Biography-the-index
Somehow I don't think so..
help needed on this thread.
lady lee- who are you, and what's your story?.
madjw thinks the wts' policy is sufficient to deal wtih cases of sexual abuse of children.
I'm very angry for that attack on your character LL. I feel just sick that people have to try and hurt another personally just to try to get them to shut up about this subject. I know it's something they wish we wouldn't talk about, but to go to the lengthens they do to try to keep you quite..it makes you wonder what they have to hide or what makes them feel less then when you or others bring it up? It has to be something.
help needed on this thread.
lady lee- who are you, and what's your story?.
madjw thinks the wts' policy is sufficient to deal wtih cases of sexual abuse of children.
Wrong way is dead wrong!
Elders investigate it just as strongly as the police, only without the experience! They further damage victims and could damage their case against the abuser by telling the abuser every detail of the allegation against him. That's a Dream for a defense attorney to know way in advance how to go at the little victims in court.
Victims should not even waste their time going to the elders IMO they should go to the police and make a report once the district attorney decides to take it to trial it's a open record. Time for the family to warn everyone in the congregation and neighboring KH's because the creep most likely has moved on to another hall while he awaits trial. When the DA clears it then go to the elders, they most likely will already know but only give then the simple facts and never allow them to question your child..that should be left to the trained professionals.
Please learn from my mistakes...
since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.
Great advice LL.
since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.
Mad JW,
Your right her having to sit there and face her abuser and a jerk of a defense attorney was hellfire..but the result was seeing her molester handcuffed and lead away Knowing she helped in making sure he wasn't going to harm another child.
What she went through with the elders was also hellfire..but the results were waiting and waiting almost 4 years before he was even d'fd and for what? I'm not sure we heard it through the grapevine and verified it recently.
Imagine being a parent and telling your child if you just tell the elders the truth you will help make sure he never hurts any of you friends in the KH and nothing happening. Imagine running to the phone knowing this is the day they are going to tell you he was being disfellowshipped and it never coming.
We went through a trial and we all know how long of a process that is and still heard nothing. I mean it's not like he hadn't molested other children, he was on reproof for admitting to molesting 2 others when my child spoke up..that's 3 witnesses alone.
Look, I know your an honest person. You feel what you feel. Only question is... could you be wrong?
since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.
Brotherdan..
You have no idea, we sat like a couple of zombies letting it happen!! That's the one thing I will always have guilt over. I should have never allowed it, I just didn't know
since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.
My child was molested after this policy change...
We were still made to feel as we did something wrong by calling the autorities before the elders. Not verbally, but how we were treated.
We heard the phrase "reproach on Jehovah's name" over and over agian along with "this is bad". We really felt almost guilty after the elders left our home.. well, really confused.. My child was questioned horriably for almost 2 hours and not one of those elders told us we could have just given them the story Dont they relize the damage they can do?? Do they care?
It was a night I will never forget. They actually told us the molester had the just as much right as his victim to me in the KH?? How was that protecting the victim from further abuse as the NEW policy states? Of course we didn't allow her in the same room with the creep ever again until she had to face him in court.
No Love..
No support..
No compassion..
So unlike Christ Jesus.
I pray for those going through it right now, because I know they're out there.
we are going up to the cabin in colorado at noon today - first time we have gone in the fall.. will be back in two weeks - see you then.. james and mai.
Colorado is beautiful!! Enjoy :)