Posts by truthseekeriam

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"Studies" are allowed to give talks?????

by Joshnaz in

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my sister who is a active jw texted me today to let me know that her boyfriend who is "studying" is going to give his first talk a week from this wednesday.

i always thought you had to be a publisher to speak on stage.

oh ya, not to mention he still smokes cigaretts.

truthseekeriam

Nope, my son wasn't a unbaptized publisher when he was giving talks. My husband just said to put him on the list and they did. Not sure when it changed or if it has but he gave his last talk about a year ago.

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What do you need to do to get FIRED around here?

by lepermessiah in

seinfeld fans - remember the episode where george is so desperate to get fired by the yankees that he does all these things to defy the boss and still keeps his job?.

well, i have been going through the same thing at the kh.

i havent been to a thursday meeting in weeks, i am getting like 2 hours of field circus a month (just mailing it in while my fade progresses) i dont comment, most people know that i would rather not be there, etc...... so i go last night since it is the co visit, and my wife really wanted me to come.

truthseekeriam

Funny but when we came out about our child being molested by a fellow JW the very next month my husband was taken off the list. They fired him on the spot I suppose without talking to him or asking if he needed a break. Nothing! After months of trying to figure out what was going on, we took it as a little hint we might have done the wrong thing by going to the police before them.

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Coded Phone number for Kingdom Hall attendence.

by Joshnaz in

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i just learned the the kingdom halls have a coded phone number for listening in on the sunday meetings.

for my area the phone number is 623-748-1908. when it asks you for the code dial 623293. you can enter the number of listeners and you are counted in attendance.

i just wanted to let everyone here know and see what everyone's thought's were..

truthseekeriam

Good question PEC..I'll try Sunday and let you know.

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"Studies" are allowed to give talks?????

by Joshnaz in

jw
friends

my sister who is a active jw texted me today to let me know that her boyfriend who is "studying" is going to give his first talk a week from this wednesday.

i always thought you had to be a publisher to speak on stage.

oh ya, not to mention he still smokes cigaretts.

truthseekeriam

It not the full 30 min talk that the Elders and MS give on Sunday it's usually the 4min bible reading to begin with. My 11year old gave a few before we became inactive but they do call it giving a talk

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I must be missing something...

by stillin in

i keep hearing this chatter regarding a new rule regarding the holding of your spouse's hand during a congregation prayer, which, i agree, would be ridiculous.

but where did this rumor start, or was it just some free-lancing elder expressing his own opinion, which escalated to this ripple effect that i see here?.

i haven't seen any less holding of hands at the kh i go to....

truthseekeriam

Here it is.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/182223/5/November-15-Watchtower-Study-Edition-discourages-showing-affection-to-your-spouse

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I must be missing something...

by stillin in

i keep hearing this chatter regarding a new rule regarding the holding of your spouse's hand during a congregation prayer, which, i agree, would be ridiculous.

but where did this rumor start, or was it just some free-lancing elder expressing his own opinion, which escalated to this ripple effect that i see here?.

i haven't seen any less holding of hands at the kh i go to....

truthseekeriam

Didn't someone post the picture that went along with that article?

From what I remember it showed them standing with their hands together or holding their bible, book-bag ect. Not one of the couples holding hands discretely. In my experience as a JW a picture is worth a thousand words. *wink*

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Follow up to my saga

by Heartbreaker in

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i realize i'm a bit quiet here, and most if not all won't remember my story, so here is a brief synopsis.

i recently decided that i'd rather pursue life rather than a future life promised but not realized.

i was fortunate enough that my husband agreed in that he didn't want any man telling him what he had to do, or how to live, and so left with me.

truthseekeriam

Heartbreaker,

First off here is some big (((hugs)))

I'm so sorry for what you are dealing with and trust me I know what your feeling I'm in the same boat and it's extremely emotional and lonely. It's so hard to go from a room full of people that "loved you"(??) to being left alone with your thoughts and your heart- broken.

The only advise I can give you is to get busy and stay busy and gives you less time to think about the disappointment and the lack of love shown by the so called Shepard's. I come to believe they have to be some heartless bastards to do what they do to us... and with a straight face!!

We also are looking into getting some family counseling, it's much needed, every member of our little family has been tore up over the molestation of our child and the after effects of how things are really done in the Org.

Keep you head up and keep praying hard to Jehovah he will be their for you and he will help you to sustain. He really is the only one that won't fail us because he knows our hearts and he knows we are doing what we need to do at this point. Who cares what anyone else thinks

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Think ive changed...can see it quite a bit laterly.PLEASE!!

by angel eyes in

putting this out there.....going back 12months ago i was completely different to how i am now.

i am still loyal to jah and dont go against the scriptures, but even though ive recently returned to pioneering (only aux pio at present) i see im a little more laid back.. i think this has come through having to endure hell and back without any help, except jehovah, which im not complaining, im so glad his been there for me, for us both.

but i really believe that due to things that have badly and wrongly been allowed to take place etc its moulded me a little different to how i was.

truthseekeriam

Hello AE,

I'm on the tail end of the hell your went through. The lack of love and compassion from the B/S let alone the elders after we found out our child was molested by a fellow JW, was to say the least, devastating. It's still fresh in my mind and even now as others are now showing a bit of interest I can't forget the fact that when we needed them the most they couldn't or didn't help us. Like yourself we were left to rely completely on Jehovah and of course fleshly family to get through the toughest few years of our lives.

For me it drew me closer to God and it showed me he was the one helping us along, it was nothing like what the articles put out about how our elders are their to protect us from the storms or how our B/S should be willing to die for each other. It opened my eyes up to the fact that the love given is conditional upon what those taking the lead in the congregation are doing. Sadly in our case it's not a subject they like talked about.

I'm impressed you can make a go at it again, because no matter how much easier it would make things with or JW family members the hypocrisy keeps me from going again I can't sit and listen to how loving we are and how we take care of each other when in need over and over again without wanting to scream.

Not many of us ever will have the misfortune of seeing the real side of testing out that LOVE within the congregation but I have and I don't think I will ever be able to forget and believe as I once did. Instead I take it as Jehovah giving me the answers to my prayers and showing me he is not with these people right now or ever. That's a hard thing to admit.

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