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  The two witness rule

  by dgp in

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  2. experiences

  suppose an active jehovah's witness sees a worldly person abusing a worldly child; for example, touching her genitals, and the witness goes to the police.

  the worldly police will take action.. now, suppose the same jehovah's witness also sees a witness abusing a witness child in the same way, touching her genitals.

  the witness knows he can't go to the elders because there are not two witnesses to the fact.. does the witness get to think that there is something very wrong about the two witnesses rule?

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  truthseekeriam

  @ Titus.

  My comment was made in refrence to you saying...

  "And you don't need to, MS. If police arrests that man, everybody will know. You don't need to tell them."

  The only ones who knew, were those involved.

  We were told not to tell anyone.

  The congregation as well as the public was not aware this man was out on bail awaiting a trial for over a year. Thankfully he was convicted and sent away to prison....however, no one was protected from him in that year.

  So NO "everyone" did not know this brother in their congregation was awaiting trial for molesting.
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  The two witness rule

  by dgp in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  suppose an active jehovah's witness sees a worldly person abusing a worldly child; for example, touching her genitals, and the witness goes to the police.

  the worldly police will take action.. now, suppose the same jehovah's witness also sees a witness abusing a witness child in the same way, touching her genitals.

  the witness knows he can't go to the elders because there are not two witnesses to the fact.. does the witness get to think that there is something very wrong about the two witnesses rule?

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  truthseekeriam

  Hi Titus,

  Not true.

  When I went to police the molester was arrested, we were awaken in the middle of the night by an officer informing us he was released on bail. No one other then those involved knew anything. We were told not to talk to others about what happened...because we wouldn't want to slander our brother. A bit later after we were harassed at a court appearance by one of his family member(active JW) my husband approached an elder and informed him of what happened..again we were the ones told to keep in control and not to cause divisions by talking to others.

  We at no time felt like the victims in this case, but instead were treated as if we did something wrong.

  Unless you live it and see for yourself I'm sure I will never convince you that things aren't done as you would think they would be. I just hope you never have to find out.
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  YOU TUBE My Jehovah's Witness Story: Raped By a Circuit Overseer

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  interesting story.

  this fellow needs encouragement to go to the police.

  the co was later promoted to do .

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  truthseekeriam

  So very sad...

  Please take it to the authorities, even if nothing is done you will be able to feel better knowing that you at least tried.

  I for one will always error on the side of support of a victim, if I'm wrong. Shame on them. If I'm right, I was one less person to harm the victim for speaking up.

  I have been on the other side when my daughter accused a fellow JW of molesting her. Many believed the molester over her which tore at our heart..."how can they doubt someone brave enough to speak up?" Well in time the creep admitted to being a child molester and those people who believed him were left feeling quite foolish for taking a stand on his side.

  My opinion...Offer a kind word and sit back and wait for it to be proven or not. Don't add salt to an open wound by calling someone a liar before you know for sure.
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  I recommend you DON'T give this as a gift for a little girl!

  by StAnn in

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  2. friends

  i have this family that i've adopted.

  they live in ms. the mother was raped and got pregnant and was df'd because of the 2-witness rule, etc., and even her own elder father wouldn't help her.

  long story short, years have gone by, she had three more kids and now has a husband to boot.

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  truthseekeriam

  I know exactly what toy your talking about. I bought it for my daughter (mixed black and mexican) when she was younger and she loved it!! I wouldn't worry about it..I'm sure she'll love it once she starts playing with it
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  Sometimes Race does matter...

  by mrsjones5 in

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  or to be more specific genetics matter.

  i just heard a story on npr about blood marrow donations among the black community, why it's so low and why it's desperately needed.

  here's a few points that i thought were interesting about this issue:.

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  truthseekeriam

  Thanks Josie,

  My daughter is a carrier of the sickle cell gene so she has to be very careful about who she decides to marry and have children with, I appreciate this information.
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  I would like to hear your experiences with being SHUNNED

  by jwfacts in

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  2. experiences

  i am going to put together a page of short experiences of how shunning has affected exjws.

  you do not have to be disfellowshipped, even if you were shunned after being marked or after fading.

  all comments are welcome, such as who shunned you, how long since family have spoken to you, what your situation is, why you are being shunned and how it has made you feel.

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  truthseekeriam

  We have been inactive for over a year now and we get the head down and looks in the other direction when we are out and about. I try not to let them get away with it and make a scene by yelling out their name and making them acknowledge me, but sometimes I just walk away and let it be.

  My husband seems to really get upset about it, especially when he's driving in the drive way and he sees the neighbor(JW) hide behind the tree as to avoid having to say hello?? Strange people indeed.

  Family members have slowed down in their association with us, which I think hurts the most. Calls that use to be almost daily have know turned into text messages twice a week. It's not easy losing so much so quickly but I would do it again to see my children thriving as normal children
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  Just talked to a brother in the service department and he hung up on me!

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ok so last sunday was my last meeting.

  i have been in contact with the service department over this problem with the child molesters in my hall, i have written many, many letters begging for help, i have gotten nothing for help from them, but to wait on jehovah and pray more study more, etc.

  so i want them to know that they they win they have weeded me out from the "truth" i am a bad seed from satan as i cannot abide by how we handle child molesters.

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  I for one am very impressed by the lengths Life is to short is going to. She is very brave and I look up to anyone especially when it comes to protecting children. What she is doing is not easy, it takes a very emotional strain on a person especially when she's only trying to do the right thing an is being fought like she is in the wrong.(I know all about that)

  I really hope you can get past the negative and start taking great pride in what you are doing. Hold you head high and know you have done absolutely everything you could to protect the children in your congregation. How many can say that truthfully? Not many, that's for sure.
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  What level of reform is needed on the pedophile issue?

  by pirata in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are a lot of threads the past few days on pedophiles.. what reforms would you want to see in order to feel the matter has been taken care of?.

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  truthseekeriam

  Jamie,

  I couldn't have said it better myself.

  You must have some experience in it as well.
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  A Jehovah's Witness has admitted sexually abusing a young boy from the age of seven.

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://news.stv.tv/scotland/west-central/187628-jehovahs-witness-sexually-abused-seven-year-old-boy/.

  a jehovah's witness has admitted sexually abusing a young boy from the age of seven.. thomas gold, 45, abused the child over a period of seven years at an address in clackmannanshire.

  the abuse began with a kiss on the boy's mouth, and became more sexual as the youngster got older.. on one occasion there was "unnatural carnal connection" between them.

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  truthseekeriam

  It breaks my heart and makes me sick to my stomach at the same time
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  Were You Ever Nervous To Post Here???

  by minimus in

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  were you apprehensive to put up a post on this forum?.

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  truthseekeriam

  It took me a few days before I actually hit the button