Posts by freddo

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The Watchtower 11/15/2014

by wifibandit in

http://bayfiles.net/file/1jpu5/qhxxxl/w_e20141115.pdf.

select "premium download".

(thanks breakfast of champions).

freddo

The Paradise Book started Orange and then it was more Orangey Pink ... over years it gradually faded. How sensible of it.

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Fresh Newcomer

by Yondaime in

hi guys, my name is yondaime,.

my will to remain in this relgious sect is fading, i'm about to be a freshman(just turned 18) in college.

, i have seen so many terrible things happen to good people in this cult and i'm sick of it!

Bro-in-law is a young elder, probably 30 ish - out to make a name for himself as a put 'em right zealot with a KS elder book in one hand, branch letters to elders in the other and an eye to being "used" at circuit or district regional level on items as a circuit overseer's golden boy.

Dad has been round the block - say 50+, and by his comments re: the GB he truly knows the score (has his KH given up thousands of dollars of saved up funds recently?) He remembers how his own Mother (and unbelieving Father?) argued about getting an education and that he believed heavily in the 70's and 80's and his best years have passed him by.

I would say Bro-in-law (new breed of elder not aware of '75, the generation of 1914 pre-1995 and is happy with the rubberband overlappy crap cuz it's a comin' so soon!) has been needling for a while and is well aware of the "examine qualifications" letter of an appointed man who "approves" of a son or daughter going to college for non-society approved reasons. (i.e. property law and pedo damage limitation law)

There will be fall-out and I reckon Dad will resign or get pushed over this. The wild card is the Mother. Where is she in all of this?

To the OP - college is good but like a previous poster said, don't discount other options. Running your own business whether based on selling solutions, a trade or a profession like e.g. accountancy can be good too.

I'm probably miles off target, but hey!

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1971 The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah-How?

by Cadydriver in

i am doing some research and i could use a pdf copy of the wbts 1971 book " the nations shall know that i am jehovah-how?

" does anyone have i copy i can download?

thanks,.

freddo

It's on the WT library CD-ROM ...

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My frist email letter from my JW Dad. So sad...

by suavojr in

jw
friends

i am in my early 30s and woke up to ttatt in late 2012. my dad just turned 65 in june!

wow, i never saw that being possible.. .

he just got himself a computer and was able to get internet in a remote location where he is serving as an elder with my mom (where the need is great) i was happy to see how he was able to send me a few notes saying hi and i was able to share some pictures of my wife and family, etc.. .

freddo

Dear Dad,

Great to hear from you! How am I doing? Just great! let me tell you about all the good things going on in my life.

(List them ... all of them)

I've attached some photos of the grandchildren and they all send their love too. We'd love to come and see you some time or have you and Mom over to visit with us. How about we arrange that real soon?

Now thank you for your concern about the end being very soon; I've been thinking real deep about that and I just wanted to say two things.

1. Nothing of the last days approaches the misery of WW2; Vietnam of the 60's and 70's doesn't come close. The Twin Towers' destruction, while deeply shocking resulted in the deaths of a few thousand. In 1945 in Dresden 25,000 died in one bombing raid. In Hiroshima 150,000, in Nagasaki 75,000. Even London lost 40,000 to the Blitz of 1940/41.

In total over 60,000,000 died in WW2; there is nothing before or since that hits that grand scale of human misery. WW2 ended almost 70 years ago. The last days are far far better now than they were in 1940/45.

2. Luke 21 vs 8.

I feel this verse of the Bible has been ridden roughshod over by those who claim the end is soon. I think of how the end was coming in 1914, then 1925, then WW2, then 1975, then the generation of 70 or 80 years starting in 1914 ending in 1984 - 1994. Even now there are books on Watchtower library which say that the end will come in "our twentieth century" (Know Jehovah ... Ch12 p216 para9).

I am sorry you have devoted your whole life to believing the end is "very soon" or "just around the corner", I truly am. I implore you to enjoy your remaining good years and to see good for all your hard work.

Let's meet up real soon.

Please give Mom a hug, your ever loving etc etc

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So how are elders going to be appointed again from now on?

by toto555 in

so have we got any additional clarification since the initial announcement on this?

the change is almost 1 month away and we still don't know how this is going to work exactly?

so what's the deal?

freddo

Yeah, it'll probably feel the same, just that the CO will have the final word in the vast majority of cases.

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Jumping cursor: what to do?

by compound complex in

jw
friends

on my imac laptop i am typing away and suddenly my words appear on a different line, often within the text of an earlier sentence.

it is nonstop and the tech advice online is difficult for me to understand/apply.

never has occurred on my dell pc.. has this happened to you?.

freddo

Deemunz?

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Beards......the CO allowed this one!

by punkofnice in

a minny man in a local congregation has a beard...he was bullied by the elders to remove it.. then the co came along and told the elders to allow him to keep his beard.

(not as the result of any skin condition or anything).. i kid you not!!!.

what do you make of that?.

freddo

In our circuit (England) there is a CBE with a beard. Quite a few elders too. They don't get allowed on the assembly program though but most congregations allow a beard for a visiting speaker.

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Entertainment for International Delegates

by Listener in

bibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.

it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.

freddo

Amazing how they can sing out of "both corners" of their mouths. "Worldly songs" and "Kingdom songs" together. 2 Cor 6 v 15 - Christ and Belial.

So the "High Standing" International Delegates, "Helpers", High Level HQ and Branch Big-Wigs all get to use "dedicated funds" for a party in the kingdom hall.

If I asked the elders in our hall to have congregation party in our kingdom hall for the congregation what do you think their reply would be?

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Convicted Pedo and Rapist Ex-elder Mark Sewell on BBC Wales News

by freddo in

i don't know how to put this up on the forum but if anyone goes to the bbc news website and clicks on wales/south east there is an interview with one of the victims of sewell who gave up her anonymity and who is decrying the cover up by elders she endured in cardiff wales.. this brave woman is interviewed for over two minutes - you can see all the watchtower bound volumes in her room.

it is dated july 3rd 2014.. i don't live in her area but typically this would have been on the local bbc news for south wales area including the capital, cardiff and so i reckon over half a million people might have seen the item broadcast.. if you can put it up on here please do.. .

freddo

I don't know how to put this up on the forum but if anyone goes to the BBC news website and clicks on Wales/South East there is an interview with one of the victims of Sewell who gave up her anonymity and who is decrying the cover up by elders she endured in Cardiff Wales.

This brave woman is interviewed for over two minutes - you can see all the Watchtower bound volumes in her room. It is dated July 3rd 2014.

I don't live in her area but typically this would have been on the local BBC news for South Wales area including the capital, Cardiff and so I reckon over half a million people might have seen the item broadcast.

If you can put it up on here please do.

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What happens after you get the registered letter?

by paul from cleveland in

my friend's daughter, who was baptized at 14, has decided to leave the witnesses.

she's in her early 20's.

she's stopped going to meeting a while ago and moved in with her father who is disfellowshipped.

freddo

If she was baptised as a minor she can claim her baptizm was invalid - if she has not been a regular pioneer since her baptism. She will need to be hardnosed about it, do it in writing and involve watchtower legal to do it.