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  What to say to JWs at a funeral

  by dogon in

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  my father passed away this week.

  we are going to have a funeral for him.

  he was not a witness for many years but a lot of his family is still associated.

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  freddo

  What kind of service will it be? Being as your dfd aunt is arranging it?
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  They're Making it Impossible to Fade

  by DarioKehl in

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  2. beliefs

  for those of you who have already faded due to family still being in, have you noticed how the noose is tightening?.

  if it's not memorial, it's special day assembly.

  if it's not that, it's convention or the special talk.

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  freddo

  You do need to be firm. Whether they are showing sincere loving interest or whether they are on a power trip "treat these two imposters just the same" and simply say as many times as you need:

  "Thank you for your interest, brother - I have some personal matters that need all my attention right now and so I won't be able to join in/join up/do that/have a shephering visit/go on the ministry with you/ if anything changes I'll let you know."

  They will let you go or may offer help - if so politely say

  "like I said brother I have some matters to attend to over the coming weeks - if anything changes I will let you know."

  If they really persist just put your hand up and say "I know where you are if I need you, gotta run!" and walk away.

  Rinse and repeat as often as you need.
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
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  Mays JW TV Broadcast/Your feedback is appreciated

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a pretty good intuition but i have to admit i am going back and forth on the jw tv may broadcast.

  i keep asking myself are they really in financial trouble (wishful thinking) or are they just grabbing for more money?.

  i always appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and ideas on here.. let me know what you think.

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  freddo

  What happened to Ananias and Sapphira when they went'a telling half-truths about their finances? And they were giving money not taking it!
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  Mays JW TV Broadcast/Your feedback is appreciated

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a pretty good intuition but i have to admit i am going back and forth on the jw tv may broadcast.

  i keep asking myself are they really in financial trouble (wishful thinking) or are they just grabbing for more money?.

  i always appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and ideas on here.. let me know what you think.

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  freddo

  Me again ...

  Something is urgent and ongoing too. Losing D.O.'s; kicking bethelites out. Closing branches. Normally if they want to raise the bank balance they get the CO's to lean on the cong. elders or to mention it in their circuit talks. This time they've cut out the middle men. Maybe too many cong. elders are wary - especially if they've just sent a six figure sum off to the branch or HQ.

  The fact these well-fed men aren't wearing their rings shows they've at least received some negative feedback from these forums.

  I hope it's fear of pedo lawsuits but surely that can't be all of it? Perhaps Babylon's waters really are drying up!
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  Mays JW TV Broadcast/Your feedback is appreciated

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a pretty good intuition but i have to admit i am going back and forth on the jw tv may broadcast.

  i keep asking myself are they really in financial trouble (wishful thinking) or are they just grabbing for more money?.

  i always appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and ideas on here.. let me know what you think.

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  freddo

  Someone on another thread said why not rent out regional translation offices at say $3K a month rather than spend a million bucks on one. It's a good point.

  Jesus (who had nowhere to lay his head of course) didn't tell his disciples to buy an upper room for the last supper did he?
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  GB’s spring cleaning helps faders

  by wheelwithinwheel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the gbs 2015 doctrinal spring cleaning is a gift to all faders.

  when we were fading they were grappling with the dying generation.

  their ensuing explanations made our diminishing meeting attendance and service easily explainable.

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  freddo

  WWW makes a very good point. If you are an elder or MS though you need to resign first and then after about six months from the dust settling on your resignation you can start a fade. Any quicker than that and even the most laid back elders will be on your case.

  The higher profile you are then the longer you need to take. And DON'T VOICE YOUR CONCERNS TO OTHERS OR THEY WILL GET YOU ON THE CAUSING DIVISIONS CARD.

  But you can use what WWW says to your advantage.
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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  freddo

  Just watched the money part of the broadcast. Unbelievable.

  What does the broadcast tell me?

  They need money. But why?

  They've closed dozens of branches and presumably are selling them. The Anglo-American HQ's can be financed by selling the old HQ's. They are streamlining halls in the UK, not needing extras.((eg sell three, make them meet in one and build that one with the lolly (and free labour) from the previous three and send the loot back to HQ.))

  With the rise of the net they need less literature and less meeting places.

  So why do they need the dough? Is it an anticipated onslaught in the wake of Candace Conti? Oh I do hope so.

  Ananias and Sapphire got struck down over "false accounting" - Judas topped himself due to guilt over the desire for money. It's a shame I don't believe in an active God anymore or I would have had a glimmer of hope he was putting hooks in their jaws.

  Trouble is enough folk will be hedging their bets by backing a possible eternal future with their dosh. Sad.

  Silver lining? The GB broadcasting will do better at making JW's wake up than any apostates. Bit like plots by the Allies to kill Hitler - by 1943 they realised he was making a better job of losing the war than any replacement regime would and so they let him alone.
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  Would you call JW HQ???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a friend who is still in.

  this friend is a partaker, but has serious doubts about the org.

  this friend wants to stand up as a man, and wants to call wtbts hq.

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  freddo

  Your poor well-intentioned, sincere and naive friend will be raking fire into his bosom.
  
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  Roller Coater Emotions

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  the roller coaster ride of leaving the jw.org cult..... guilt .

  fear.

  anger.

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  freddo

  No guilt here - No fear of Armageddy either. Still working on the anger I'm sad to say.
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  Today's text--Jehovah, the 'Impartial' God

  by sd-7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "jehovah your god...treats none with partiality."--deut.

  10:17.. "impartiality is one of jehovah's endearing qualities.

  " <--yes, between that and his tendency towards genocidal warfare, i don't know what makes me love him more.

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  freddo

  God is not partial.

  He doesn't mind if a Tsunami he chooses to let happen kills Japanese, Indonesians or Thais. Same with Earthquakes - Haitians, Italians, Nepalese - he's not fussed which nation or race they come from.

  He doesn't lift a fat finger for any of them.