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  Would this be any use to the Royal Commission?

  by freddo in

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  i believe this shows how the org.

  doesn't want to be held accountable to secular legal authorities.. in the 1991 green elders handbook (used between 1991 and 2010) there is a blank page (page 143) and at one elders school we were instructed to write six expressions that "should not be used on s77 + s79 forms (df and da forms)".. 1) anything alluding to or naming one of the society's legal advisers.. 2) any mention of the legal desk.. 3) any comments referring to direction from the society.. 4) any comments mentioning anyone other than the committee itself as a possible influence in the decision reached.. 5) any comment that might suggest someone with a critical eye that the committee did not reach its decision on its own but instead somehow yielded to the influence of an outside party.. 6) any comments indicating the elders mishandled the case or committed any error in the investigation or the judicial committee process.. i have in my possession two elders handbooks with these exact words written in each in different handwriting.

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  Would this be any use to the Royal Commission?

  by freddo in

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  i believe this shows how the org.

  doesn't want to be held accountable to secular legal authorities.. in the 1991 green elders handbook (used between 1991 and 2010) there is a blank page (page 143) and at one elders school we were instructed to write six expressions that "should not be used on s77 + s79 forms (df and da forms)".. 1) anything alluding to or naming one of the society's legal advisers.. 2) any mention of the legal desk.. 3) any comments referring to direction from the society.. 4) any comments mentioning anyone other than the committee itself as a possible influence in the decision reached.. 5) any comment that might suggest someone with a critical eye that the committee did not reach its decision on its own but instead somehow yielded to the influence of an outside party.. 6) any comments indicating the elders mishandled the case or committed any error in the investigation or the judicial committee process.. i have in my possession two elders handbooks with these exact words written in each in different handwriting.

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  freddo

  I believe this shows how the org. doesn't want to be held accountable to secular legal authorities.

  In the 1991 Green Elders Handbook (used between 1991 and 2010) there is a blank page (page 143) and at one elders school we were instructed to write six expressions that "should not be used on S77 + S79 forms (DF and DA forms)".

  1) Anything alluding to or naming one of the Society's legal advisers.

  2) Any mention of the legal desk.

  3) Any comments referring to direction from the Society.

  4) Any comments mentioning anyone other than the committee itself as a possible influence in the decision reached.

  5) Any comment that might suggest someone with a critical eye that the committee did not reach its decision on its own but instead somehow yielded to the influence of an outside party.

  6) Any comments indicating the elders mishandled the case or committed any error in the investigation or the judicial committee process.

  I have in my possession two elders handbooks with these exact words written in each in different handwriting.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Can't Remember (video)

  by mulder_scully in

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  hi friends!.

  i normally post over on /r/exjw but i've been reading more and more over here on this forum and found it incredibly supportive and informative.

  i hope to participate in this community and become an active member.

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  Yep I remember that Splash.
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  Governing Body missing their big chance

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  it seems to me that the governing body is missing an excellent opportunity to demonstrate that they are indeed the faithful and discreet slavetm.

  even if, as they claim, they collectively constitute the slavetm only when meeting together to consider spiritual matters, surely any one of their number could expect to be guided by holy spirittm when testifying before the australian royal commission on such an important matter.. in fact, they should widely publicize the hearing and encourage all jw's to watch it live.

  this would show they have nothing to fear and really believe all the (hot steaming piles of) spiritual food they've been spewing.. after all, their own translation of the bible says, at matthew 10:18-20, "18 and you will be brought before governors and kings+ for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.+ 19 however, when they hand you over, do not become anxious about how or what you are to speak, for what you are to speak will be given you in that hour;+ 20 for the ones speaking are not just you, but it is the spirit of your father that speaks by you.".

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  But if he does what you suggest undertheradar it will cost millions of dollars in compensation to victims.

  You know Jehovah needs millions of dollars to pay his angels to hold back the four winds of the earth so Warwick can be built.
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  Preparing for Friday's Feeding Frenzy

  by Esse quam videri in

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  many hundreds and perhaps thousands of people, worldwide, are eagerly waiting for the questioning of geoffrey jackson at the australian royal commission on institutional response to child abuse.

  this is the day that many have hungered for.

  finally, a member of the governing body being questioned and compelled to make full disclosure, to the best of his knowledge, the very best of his knowledge.

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  Wouldn't it be fantastic if this was Geoffrey Jackson's Ray Franz moment? Now that is something worth praying for.
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  Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update

  by umbertoecho in

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  hello people.

  the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.

  however, it seem that it will be a video link.

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  But wasn't Monty Baker's (the ex jw) testimony piped in by video? I got the impression "the court" could see him but we couldn't?

  I do hope I'm wrong.
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  Can JWs be police in Australia?

  by Larrikin in

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  hi everyone, i'm new here, i've been following the rc reports, and i was hoping you could help, my question is are jw allowed to be police, i heard the jws saying in one report with enthusiasm that they had jw in the policeforce.

  and would there be any conflict from the force with any of their teaching, that would be contrary to duties..

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  Absolutely, definitely allowed in the UK if (as most do not) not carrying a gun. Certainly not encouraged. I have definite knowledge of an elder serving as a copper.
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  The typical JW zombie mindset

  by SecretSlaveClass in

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  i posted this on a pro-jw site:.

  this is the official policy sanctioned by the governing body.

  it's not about indivuals being molesters/deviants.

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  But .... "Anna Kotas" has read it (a mere sister I presume - sarcasm - has read it. She can't spiral bind the elders book and yet she has access to this much more "highly confidential" document.)

  Also your post is "allowed" on a pro-jw site.

  These are good things. They are the thin edge of the wedge.
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  "And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"

  by Terry in

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  i always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.

  i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.

  so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".

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  Terry, you may feel cruel but in the long run you were kind.
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  This too Shall Pass (RC Commission vs WTS)

  by undercover in

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  while i'm glad that the practices of the wts are under review and the australian commission is taking them to task, i'm not really expecting huge changes in the long run.

  oh, they may have to agree to some changes in how they report crimes brought to elders' attention, but this excitement over the supposed expose of wt practices shall pass, and jws will soon be canvassing neighborhoods and rolling their carts, looking for converts.

  conventions will go on.

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  It is nice to have the moral high ground. God's one and true religion is being held to account, shown to the world and found wanting IN HOW IT CARES FOR CHILDREN. Look at that slimebag Bowditch on the RC who says he would warn his worldly friend but goes silent when asked about warning worldly children?

  Instead of people leaving in shame because they've shagged each other or had a cigarette or wanked to porn they can take the moral high ground and go up to the trolley dollies and their minders and embarrass them and say "How can you profess to be a representative of the creator when your leaders are defending child abusers? You white washed grave!"

  Sorry for the rant.