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  The Shit Has Just Started Hitting The Fan For The WT Corporation, Nightmare Stage!

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  as with any course which is based on pure wishful thinking(which is the wt corporation based on) has different stages.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wishful_thinking.

  some psychologists believe that positive thinking is able to positively influence behavior and so bring about better results.

  this is called "pygmalion effect".

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  I think we are witnessing more of the WT leadership's "frustration" stage ... where things start to go wrong and they are prompting a more determined effort to keep the fantasy alive. I do hope it morphs into the "nightmare" stage or better yet the "pack our bags and go away stage" but that may be just my wishful thinking!
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  London Bethelites Living on Their Nerves?

  by The Searcher in

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  2. scandals

  just got home and received information from a source regarding london bethel: .

  a bethel couple told my source that they are getting rid of about 20/25 bethelites every week and that if they are to go, they will get called in on a friday and given their leaving date.everyone is "on edge" and hoping that if they get the boot, they've got time to make alternative plans.. perhaps bethelites everywhere should apply this scripture, by looking for a job and accommodation now - and then just resign from their "vow of poverty" without giving advance warning.

  (proverbs 22:3) "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, but the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences.".

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  @Jookbeard

  London Bethel - Didn't someone post they were going to lose 25% between now and next August. If as the OP's source says they are calling in and booting 25 a week between now and Christmas I make that 200 who will be leaving in the early months of 2016. WIth more to follow?

  Watchout for bethelites landing in your circuit in the UK. Maybe they can fill the dire need for elders and servants outside London by using them to plug gaps at the same time?
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  EXTREME HYPOCRISY in this Sunday's study article!!!

  by Divergent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wow, what a disturbing study article this was!

  this was by far the most difficult study that i ever had to sit through.

  just take a look at what the article has to say about how blood should be viewed according to our conscience:.

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  Oh yeah.

  Putting aside the point about blood being used to save life being the same as eating it or drinking it, just where in scripture is there anything about the "four major components"?

  Pharisees of the highest order!
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  Where's Mouthy?

  by Village Idiot in

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  2. friends

  it's been a while since she's posted.

  i'm hoping she's ok.. for those who are new here mouthy (grace) is our forum's adopted grandma.

  she has been posting here since the beginning.

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  @Village Idiot

  Oh Yes. "Honour thy father and mother" is trumped by "obey the edicts of seven spiritual dwarfs who think they're whiter than Snow White."

  Didn't mouthy stand up and tell the elders she didn't believe in 1914 being the start of Christ's rule? Ha! Looks like she was right, suckers!
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  Kingdom Consolidation and Sales are coming – Reliable Source

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard form a reliable source that a kingdom hall consolidation is going to be happening in the us.

  currently they are looking at every kingdom hall to see if they could and should sell it.

  any kingdom hall that has not been updated and is in a bad location (long driveway, not in a visible location etc...) will be sold.

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  @Cognac

  Here in UK. Both within 30 miles of me.

  Back in August 2 congs in one hall:- one cong. closed, brothers and sisters divided up between the two next nearest congregations. Other congregation moved into another nearby KH. The original hall has been closed and is up for sale.

  In October, another case:- Cong moved out of its hall and told to share with one 10 miles away. KH closed and up for sale.

  It's happening. I've also been told unofficially that two other halls fairly close are for the chop within the next twelve months.
  
  
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  So do the baptised JW call themselves "Ordained Ministers"?

  by nonjwspouse in

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  2. beliefs

  in resent my search for the possible construction ( which i see no evidence of in building permits, etc) of a new kh that my mil has been claiming for almost 3 years now, i ran across this local linkedin profile.. at the end it states this:.

  volunteer experience & causes.

  ordained minister.

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  When it suits them they do.
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  Disfellowshipping Spree In My Congregation

  by jw07 in

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  2. beliefs

  i just was looking back at a group photo on social media from exactly one year ago.. there are 12 persons in it, and since last year 3 of those persons in that photo have been disfellowshipped, plus one more not in the photo.

  so that's a total of 4 persons from my congregation of a little over 100 publishers.. unfortunately 3 are back at the meetings and taking the shunning, but one seems to be fully awake and has disappeared completely.. that's the most persons i recall being disfellowshipped in my congregation in such a short while.

  usually it's like 1 every 2 or 3 years.. i wouldn't mind seeing more people leaving.. there are currently 3 persons who i wonder about.

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  jw07

  Can you get an anonymous letter (remember them before email?) on the lines of "Hope you are doing Ok but now you are out really check if you want to come back" - and list a few thought provokers for them to consider.
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  Discussion with a Pioneer

  by Saved_JW in

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  2. experiences

  two weeks ago i had an opportunity to meet up with a pioneer whom a friend had accepted a "bible study" from.

  my christian friend invited me to come along as support, so my plan was to sit back and listen for the most part.

  well, that was the idea anyways.

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  Can't wait!
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  Was my dad awake?!

  by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

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  i am wondering if my deceased elder father was awake?

  once we found out he was dying, i spent every moment i could with him, we were very close.

  anyway, i offered to read to him a lot when he was resting.

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  I would say he was where I was about ten years ago. Having doubts about the org. and just about ready to resign as an elder but believing the "new testament" as a Christian and foolishly thinking (me not your father who sounds great) I might be instrumental in trying to protect the flock while remaining an elder.

  The point about child abuse strikes a chord. I went to the Police and asked for and got their assurance of keeping my identity anonymous without telling the rest of the body about a child abuse case. (I also told the police I would stand up in court if they needed my testimony but in the end they got their information from a first hand source).

  I also hated those money meetings at the circuit assembly but was dumb enough to question the proposals in public.

  Sorry, this sound like it's all about me. I just think your Dad was awakening or awake and a really good elder to go to privately for any jw.

  The nice thing is he probably died with his faith in Christ and a resurrection - to heaven or earth - largely intact.
  
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  CO in midwest gets pink-slipped

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  2. beliefs

  i saw the coordinator heading for the stage and hit record on my ipad.

  i was shocked but here it is.

  here's my typed transcript of the letter he read:.

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  So in the mail he gets the bullet on the Thursday (Oct 29th?) before the Part B half of the circuit Assembly. He keeps up appearances throughout the weekend (so the Part A congs hear about it in the letter) and writes to all the circuit who read it out.

  Paragraph One shows his shock and that he is sad about it.

  Paragraph Two is on autopilot - we didn't want to be a distraction at the assembly - another dude will arrive and the subs will look after you - Jehovah's Org will provide.

  But shining through like a beacon is the bewilderment and disappointment; he and "Joy" are off to lick their wounds with their family.

  Paragraph Three

  Dramatic change (he's overwhelmed) and listing the rest being put against the wall. This is self protection of reputation - not just us - it's everyone - we're not singled out!

  Then it's like he is telling himself loudly "Jah and his org. loves me, he won't forget me, I'm confident! How wonderful Jah is!"

  All it needs is "Goodbye cruel world."

  Another poster said of those being booted - they're all in shock and the true fallout will be over the coming months when they really have to face up to life outside the bubble.

  At least they can watch the fat cats and their "help themselves helpers" on jdub broadcasting.