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  One Person Baptized at Circuit Assembly

  by Simon Templar in

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  i went to the circuit assembly with my wife yesterday.

  i have to keep peace in the family.

  there were less than 1,000 people for both the morning and the afternoon sessions.

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  freddo

  I can report from the UK one circuit split over two days.

  Yesterday - Saturday assembly 4 baptized 1005 present (used to get 1100 a few years back)

  Today - Sunday assembly 4 baptized 897 present (used to get 1000 a few years back.)

  And of course there was a "deficit."

  A few years back 6 per side was the norm. But it's been lower since the 2014 hoopla died down - one assembly day in 2015 had zero baptisms and another had 3.

  So a bit of a bounce back in baptisms, but not to pre 2014 levels. And a bit of a drop in attendance - the lowest I can recall.
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  I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

  by elbib in

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  during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

  during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

  i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

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  freddo

  @elbib

  I guess this was the culmination on top of other things you had said in the past like the 144,000 not being literal and stuff?
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  Embellished assembly interviews/"experiences"

  by ab.ortega in

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  oh how wonderful those experiences at assemblies and "schools" are - not.

  at times it seemed as if these "experiences" were scripted.

  the speaker gets criteria in the outline regarding what the experience or interview has to be about.

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  freddo

  @ab.ortega

  No. That was at every rehearsal I ever went to here in the UK.

  Welcome by the way.
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  Embellished assembly interviews/"experiences"

  by ab.ortega in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oh how wonderful those experiences at assemblies and "schools" are - not.

  at times it seemed as if these "experiences" were scripted.

  the speaker gets criteria in the outline regarding what the experience or interview has to be about.

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  freddo

  My experiences - and I only gave talks at circuit level - were the same as ttdtt's.

  I was at a rehearsal for a demo in a talk and waiting my turn and listening to a demo in another brother's talk - and the DO and the CO were there.

  The guy being interviewed said how he had stood aside as a MS and later re-qualified. The DO, in front of everyone in the room said it was too negative and tried to re word it so the brother didn't tell that he had resigned. The brother bravely said he felt that wouldn't be accurate and he didn't want to do that.

  The DO went as red as a beetroot and said he shouldn't do the part! Then he (the DO) told another toady brother in the room to give a different experience that the DO obviously had prepared instead!

  The poor brother was embarrassed and angry but he kept his dignity and sat down and waited for his ride home.

  But there was an excellent result. The badly treated MS resigned a few months later and a few years after that the DO got demoted in 2014 to CO when they got rid of the position.
  
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  October 2016 Campaign

  by rosesinbloom in

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  2. bible

  hello.

  does anyone know what the campaign in october is going to be about?.

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  freddo

  Okay, Okay. Let's imagine that they get a couple of extra people come along to visit.

  Now let's imagine that the planets line up and they hear a good talk from a skilled speaker and they enjoy the half-hour presentation.

  Then they'll sit through some whacky Watchtower about overlapping generations or studying with pirates in the resurrection or Abraham trekking up a hill to sacrifice his only son and that will really keep 'em coming won't it?

  ... ... ...

  Or ... imagine they go completely nuts and decide to beam in a talk from HQ and they get Steven Lett gurning all over the place!

  Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! They must be running round in HQ with their heads cut off at the moment all coming up with any idea other than to mention the elephant in the room which is that the GB have lost the plot!
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  October 2016 Campaign

  by rosesinbloom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello.

  does anyone know what the campaign in october is going to be about?.

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  freddo

  "The large number of visitors they anticipate ... "

  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHa!

  COBE to Hall Servant:

  "Well Bill we have been asked to prepare for large numbers of visitors to the Kingdom Hall in October so what do you think we can do to accommodate them?"

  Bill the Hall Servant to the COBE:

  "Well Brother, as the hall is half empty anyway I don't see the need to do anything really ..."
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses’ lock down deal for $700M Brooklyn plot

  by defender of truth in

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  the jehovah’s witnesses appear to have achieved a handshake with their bffs: jared kushner, aby rosen and lvwrk.. the pricing is roughly $700 million for the witnesses’ 733,000-square-foot world headquarters at 25-30 columbia heights and a 1.1-million-square-foot as-of-right development site at 85 jay st.. the same group purchased 1.2 million square feet in dumbo heights for $375 million in 2013 from the witnesses and are now leasing to such companies as wework and etsy.. tech outfits have been circling the brooklyn waterfront properties — and the large “watchtower” on the sign could someday be swapped for a name like “facebook.”.

  bob knakal of cushman & wakefield has been running the sale for the witnesses, who are moving to warwick, ny.. multiple contracts were handed out for the properties and, so far, all are unsigned.. there has been interest globally, and local bidders have included l&l holding, east end capital, equity one and vornado realty trust.

  when reached, the parties declined comment.. .

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  freddo

  Today I thought - "Damn! WT has been let off again in the Lopez case in the $13.2 million award." (At least for the time being ...)

  But looking at this thread - on the basis they were hoping for $1 Billion and they "only" get $700 million then that is definitely a "missing of the mark" in their accounts!

  A $300,000,000 hole.
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  Letter: TO APPLICANTS FOR THE SCHOOL FOR KINGDOM EVANGELIZERS

  by wifibandit in

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  to applicants for the school for kingdom evangelizers g-14-e us 3/16

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  freddo

  Thank you!
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  My mom died at 96 (without a visit from her granddaughter)

  by BONEZZ in

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  don't get here much anymore.

  my mom, if you remember, really wanted to see her granddaughter before she died.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.

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  freddo

  I'm so, so sorry, BONEZZ. So truly sorry ...

  I didn't see this first time round but if there is one small blessing - this video has over 70,000 views. How can we make it 700,000? or 7,000,000?
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  2016-03-12-E US BOE Re: Literature Offer for July through December 2016

  by wifibandit in

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  to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: literature offer for july through december 2016.

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  freddo

  Anyone want to take a bet that the next "simpleton" err... I mean simplification will be that AWAKE! will only be available on line and that if anyone needs a hard copy (Sister faithful who won't change but is leaving her house to the Watchtower) the congregation should print it out?