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  Question about baptism around 1973- can anyone answer for me?

  by Virgochik in

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  i am hoping someone will take a look at this and be able to help me with my question.. i was baptized in 1973, you know, because i was a teenager and old enough to stand on my own when armageddon descended in 1975. .

  perhaps elders, or any former elders especially, but anyone who was around then could help me with this question, because i honestly don't recall, and really need to know.. what were the baptismal questions the candidates responded to back then?

  were we still asked if we repented of our sins, turned around, and were being baptized in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit?.

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  Pre 85 it was the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit - don't know if it was different again in the early seventies.
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  Children, you can go to Bethel when you grow up!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/caleb-sophia-visit-bethel/.

  for those who haven't watched this, enjoy!.

  hang in there for the very last comment from caleb!

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  While wearing a dress shirt and bow tie ...
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  Raising kids in a split faith household

  by rathernotsay in

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  2. friends

  hi guys, don't know if this is the right place to ask but id like to hear other peoples experiences with raising kids in a household with split faiths.

  just for a bit of a back story, my wife and i have been married for comming up 6 years.

  we have 3 kids, 2 boys aged 5 and 3 and a 8 week old girl.

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  freddo

  Give them an alternative that is appealing and rooted in common-sense. Ask them gentle questions. Offer alternative points of view.

  E.g.

  You to your 5 year old: "Tell me about Noah and the animals son?"

  5yo: "Two by two ... built a big boat ... bad people ... etc."

  You: "That's great! Then what happened?"

  5yo: "Jehovah saved them because they loved him!"

  You: "What about all the people and animals who didn't get in. What happened to them?"

  5yo: "They all died because they didn't love Jehovah!"

  You: "What they all drowned?!"

  5yo: "Yes!"

  You: "That sounds awful! I'd never kill anyone because they didn't love me. Perhaps some of it is just a story? Anyway, shall we go and get a McDonalds?"

  
  

  Or ... once a month during summer ...

  You to the whole family: "I'm going to the beach/lake/picnic on Sunday, who's coming with me?"

  Family: "We've got the meeting."

  You: "Well I'd love you to come to the beach - we can have fun together!"

  Wife: "Our meetings are important."

  You: "And so is family time so I'm going to the beach with the kids. If you want to take the baby to the meeting you can make other arrangements, I don't mind it's up to you."
  
  

  Little bits here and there. Little and often, little and often.

  
  
  
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  My brother died last night

  by LisaRose in

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  2. friends

  i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

  it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

  there were six of us, now only four.

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  Sorry to hear this Lisa Rose.
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  Berkshire Circuit (UK)

  by Dont_Believe_The_Truth in

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  i'm hearing rumours of huge changes within the berkshire circuit here in the uk .

  congregations being dispanded and kingdom halls closing down and being sold off.... official announcements within the next month apparently .

  does anyone else have anymore info?.

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  Source tells me Windsor and one of the Slough congregations amalgamated or at least Windsor using Slough hall? And some cuts in Woking?

  I'm not too familiar with the area and do not want to ask too many questions but anyone in the know?
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  Helping my family see the truth about 'the truth'

  by Stella3 in

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  2. experiences

  this is my first time joining a forum like this.

  i grew up in the jw religion.

  i was baptized when i was 13 and started to fade out at 16 at least mentally.

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  @xjwsrock

  Brilliant posts! Thank you.

  All the best on your journey.
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  The Big House Forced Exodus

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  long video i guess addressing the many hard feelings of people getting the axe at brooklyn and other facilities.. the gist is - thanks for your help, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

  or scripturally saying - "keep warm and well fed"p.s.

  they are admitting that the are letting older ones go.. http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbrd_201605_5_video.

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  @steve2

  "How the speaker can deliver his address without blushing or fidgeting nervously I don't know."

  Because he knows if he doesn't he's next and he's shitting bricks at the very thought!

  @sparky1

  Nice reminder with that Knorr welcome letter.
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  RC 2016 Media Relations

  by wifibandit in

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  the leaks keep rolling in.... this batch is in spanish.. a los superintendentes del departamento de prensa de las asambleas regionales asunto: manual de relaciones con los medios.

  manual de relaciones con los medios 2016nsk-s. .

  2016nsk-04 sample 1-s. .

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  freddo

  Wow! It's there in print on page 3 - what to do if you are asked about 1975 - proof positive they know their date setting (and by implication we can infer their generation setting) is a huge weak spot.

  Thank you Wifibandit!
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  The two paths of exJWs

  by Simon in

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  it's easy to think of exjws as being a single amorphous group but the more i think about it, the more i believe that there are two distinct sub-groups and wonder if you agree.. there are those who believe and those who don't.

  i know that seems obvious but let's break it down a bit more.

  there are those who don't and never believed and some who are looking for a religion to match their beliefs.. i used to think this split would be between born-ins and converts but of course it's possible for born-ins to be believers although i suspect that many, like with other faiths, do so simply because they have never experienced anything else or made a conscious choice.

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  And some people ride bikes for fun, some rid to improve their health while others get very serious about what type of bike and even types of tyres, gears, weights of equipment and materials used in the bikes composition.

  The rabid will argue that their bike is the only one to have. But it is unheard of for someone to persecute or kill another bike owner because of what they ride!

  So "on yer bike" is fine by me!
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  Where does WT get their money?

  by Dreamerdude in

  1. watchtower
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  i assume they get most of it from cash donations and assets left in wills.

  there may also be some income from invested assets.

  i guess they get a lot of money from old jws who die childless or with only df'd kids.geographically i assume they get it mostly from a few countries that have many publishers and strong economies.

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  One source is old widows without kids. Sometimes even with kids.

  Old widows whose unbelieving husbands left them a house and an income stream.

  It either gets left to the congregation in which case the puppet elders (eventually) send it to "mother" or direct to the branch.