Posts by freddo

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Witness Carts - A Vehicle for Significant Decline

by slimboyfat in

i was stalking to a jw today about her recent experience on the carts and with being a jw generally.

until this conversation i considered the carts as just an ineffective preaching method and a harmless waste of time.

but now i wonder if the effect of the carts might be to produce noticeable decline in jw numbers.

freddo

@Slimboyfat

I suppose Edinburgh being the capital gets tourist trade and so more cart spots for the Japanese tourists!

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After 15-17 years JW daughter coming by for a visit today.

by James Mixon in

is something going on in jw land i don't know about.

she and her new husband and my two.

grand daughters, one i have never seen.

freddo

Wow! She'll be nervous too! Big hug and a warm smile cannot fail to disarm! Maybe small treats for the grandchildren on stand by?

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Witness Carts - A Vehicle for Significant Decline

by slimboyfat in

i was stalking to a jw today about her recent experience on the carts and with being a jw generally.

until this conversation i considered the carts as just an ineffective preaching method and a harmless waste of time.

but now i wonder if the effect of the carts might be to produce noticeable decline in jw numbers.

freddo

@No Apologies

Metropolitan is where you have one city that contains at least about twenty congregations or more in its catchment area (say any congregation within ten miles of the cart witnessing places).

A Circuit Overseer is responsible for the Metropolitan sites within that area - usually close to shopping malls, train/bus stations, business districts etc. He then appoints a lackey "up and coming" elder or two to oversee it and arrange schedules of (usually) pioneers and sometimes elders and their wives from various congregations to cover "trolley/cart shifts" of three publishers together.

Those chosen to go on Metropolitan come from those approved by each congregation service committee and filtered through the CO and his lackey assistant.

"Normal" cart witnessing is that which is arranged by each congregation in its own shopping areas etc but which shouldn't conflict with Metropolitan. The ones allowed to do congregation cart witnessing are approved by the local Body of elders and usually include anyone who is not any or all of bonkers/smelly/dressed like a sack/tourettes and the like.

In the UK a city like London would have several Metropolitan circuit cart set ups; somewhere like Birmingham/Glasgow (1 million pop) would have two or three. Cardiff/Bristol/Edinburgh (350/400,000) might have one each. As in one circuit arrangement with two or three sites in each city.

Smaller cities such as Plymouth/Newcastle or Southampton might just have one or two sites in each and only half of the congregations in a circuit providing labour.

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Witness Carts - A Vehicle for Significant Decline

by slimboyfat in

i was stalking to a jw today about her recent experience on the carts and with being a jw generally.

until this conversation i considered the carts as just an ineffective preaching method and a harmless waste of time.

but now i wonder if the effect of the carts might be to produce noticeable decline in jw numbers.

freddo

And while the pioneers and uber publishers do the metropolitan carts; they and the average joe's do the congregation carts and the only ones left doing door knocking are the "looked down on" 4 hours or less per month stammerer's stutterer's and cant be bothered semi-awake ones!

If the UK and the western world (or even the Worldwide figure) doesn't show a minus figure in the yearbook next time I just know the figures are being cooked!

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Attendances & Baptisms at Summer Conventions

by steve2 in

there have been very informative threads on presentations and audience reactions ("thrilled", "emotional") at this summer's regional conventions (formerly district conventions) but little on actual attendance numbers and numbers baptized.

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or could i be directed to current threads discussing these aspects - i searched but found nothing.

freddo

@JW Gone ...

I make it closer to 0.5% - not a ".005" rate.

Still low mind. And your analogy of 2 congs or 200 publishers worth of ministry still stands.

But don't forget there are two other assemblies in the year so maybe 1.5% per annum is more accurate?

Less deaths at 1.0% and DF/DA at 0.5% and fade at 0.5% and they are losing 0.5% overall - certainly in the western world.

All figures, statistics and speculation - mine!

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How to shake up Jdubs...

by Rather Be the Hammer in

i didn't attend the meeting last night, but my in husband came home and was quite shocked because there was a letter announcing that there will be no wt-library cd-rom any more, and..... no more calendar.. he said there was a lot of talking and noise when that was announced.. i didn't expect the calender to go, by the way.

and my husband sounded really concerned, talking about how society is cutting down.

i love it when he says with a tone of surprise in his voice: 'you were right, now they want us to do everyting digital, and throw out the printed stuff.

freddo

Isn't it that this year's (2015) library is on DVD not on CD? So the CD is not being produced but it is on DVD.

Next year will be interesting ... I see the on-line library being the only thing soon.

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Is JW.org being played?

by jw07 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wackkicmf4k.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5lsyndc1me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.

freddo

@Xanthippe

Bunker Mentality. You know, I think you might be right!

Bunker mentality seems to be feeding into everything they do ...

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Going Rogue on part at the RC/Circuit Assembly?

by someDUDEinAsmallCubicalSomewhereOverTheRAINBOX in

with all the hoopla going on about the rc, i was wondering if anyone has ever heard of or witnessed to someone giving a talk at the rc/ca that went rogue and just started lambasting the society and calling it a cult and liars ect.

i would love to hear about the experience.

like did they turn the mikes off on them?

freddo

Little Toe (Scotland - Hebrides I think?) who used to post here did that in his congregation and D/A'd from the platform.

Google: Littletoe disassociation talk

It will come up on JWfacts.

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Which Public Talks did you enjoy giving/hearing? And which ones did you dislike giving or hearing?

by humblepotato in

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i was just going through some of my talk outlines and i've decided to git rid of quite a few of them.

i'm still serving, but as time goes on... there are many subjects i will not teach anymore.. i got rid of the outlines dealing with blood, the field ministry, and ones talking about 607 and 1914. i can barely stand hearing them let alone give them.

in fact, talk 41 "stand still and see the salvation of jehovah" is one i got rid of because its whole point was about having blind obedience toward the gb and the elders during the great tribulation, and that we need to start practicing obedience now if we want to survive.

freddo

Outline No. 7 - Mercy, A Dominant Quality of Christians - was my favourite to give. (it's been changed now) It had a large section about the Good Samaritan and I used the material from The Greatest Man book to fill out the details

It was the last talk I ever gave and when I gave it as an "away talk" I would always include the line:

"So a man viewed as an apostate, from an apostate nation, put his hand in his pocket to truly help a worshiper of Jehovah; while those that professed true worship passed by on the opposite side!"

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

freddo

All this emotional heart-tugging resurrection/paradise stuff promoted by seven men who do not even believe they themselves will be there.

Perhaps it's because "They have their paradise now... " at the financial expense of the brothers and sisters?