i was just thinking about the wts and child abuse crimes/accusations.. in ancient israel, jehovah used the surrounding nations to punish israel for its wickedness.. seeing as the wts always likes to draw comparison between ancient israel and today, what about today?
could a witness argue that god is currently using 'worldly' courts to punish jw sex abusers and the wts?.
has anyone posted this before?
I went through a phase of this somewhere between being concerned about all the wrongs in JW land and how Jehovah allowed it all - and finally realising that JW land is a fantasy.
Probably believed it plausible for about two years and trotted it out occasionally to those closest to me as a possible antidote to my doubts.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/campaigner-s-grave-concerns-over-new-directives-for-jehovah-s-witnesses-1-8068458.
campaigner’s ‘grave concerns’ over new directives for jehovah’s witnesses.
steven rose .
Oh dear ...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.
This article has appeared in the printed copy of the Guardian today too. Saturday 13th August page 14.
a newbie here, joined about half an hour ago.
i started the fade about 10 years ago and have been totally inactive for about 3 years.
the reason being was that i became totally disillusioned.
Hi Tallon! Which part of the world are you from?
UK here.
usa athletes..gold-$25.000 , silver-$15.000, bronze $10.000.
singapore athletes..gold $741000, silver $371000, bronze $185000.
unless your m.phelps you don't earn enough.. what is wrong with this picture?
And the UK ... Zippo!
a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.
public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.
but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?
I wouldn't trust "their" figures. They only show what will help the gullible donate more.
so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
The Elder book has a line in it about going ahead in absentia if a person "repeatedly" fails to show for a J/C. My money is on the fact they will not go ahead until the second time so that they have their backsides covered on the "repeatedly" point should you appeal on that point.
As has been mentioned, the elders would have initially had two of the body "investigate" - i.e. get their ducks in a row as in having two witnesses.
Now you say one witness is "anonymous" - did the elders tell you that or your mother. If your mother said it then you can give it what credence you wish. If the elders said it then that is unusual because you can demand to know who the two witnesses are.
Maybe they have camped outside your house to get "evidence". If so then they have all they need.
A letter denying "any judicial wrongdoing" and demanding to know the sources of any witness against you, copied to your branch office might get them off your back if they don't have two witnesses who will stand up and say they know/heard you admit that you have been having an intimate relationship.
I think you will be DFd soon because it appears they believe they have all they need to do so.
let's be clear: people have the right to like or dislike what they want - that is why the option is there.
as long as they are not doing it in a malicious way to retaliate or game the system, there is no policing the votes.
if you get a down-vote, live with it.
Isn't Time Bandit (clumsily) trying to be satirical? I hope so because if he isn't then what's he doing here?
@Simon
You've got a lot to manage here with this forum - is there any way you could get assistance from a couple of trusted (and technically capable) posters to run it?
My fear is that one day you'll throw your hands in the air and say it's not worth the hassle any more. Your work here has been so helpful for so many that I'd hate to see it all suffer.
wow, this is awesome.
this really shows the jw passiveness towards child sex abusers.
there needs to be more of this exposing this!.
I noticed the guy next to him putting his head in his hands ... and then they scuttle off with their tails between their legs.
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What. A. Wanker.
