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Posts by freddo
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Wife is Awake
by freemindfade infollowing the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.
i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.
i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.
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One Big Family... Except For When You Need Them
by pale.emperor inwhen i was in, we all used to claim us jw's were "one big family" all around the world, and how we're the happiest people on the earth.
except that isnt true is it?
i knew that when i was in, but i've just had some news which shows me how unloving, uncaring and un-family like they really are.. my ex-best friend (he has to shun me doesn't he?
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freddo
Look, these are young people who are obviously relatively healthy and are living in the UK. It's not hard to get basic work in the UK. As Judge Judy would say - "get a job".
Warehouse work, supermarket work even at basic wages will pay £6.50 or £7.50 per hour.If they both knuckle down, get 35 hour jobs that is the better pert of £500 p.w.
They're just used to being useless. Next step is to set up his own window washing business part time at the weekends - then he'll turn over £20 per hour easily. Then get some education.
PE. If you want to help them put these suggestions to them in a letter and enclose a cheque for say £50.00 or a £20 note and say you would like to help more but of course you have your own bills to pay.
Jeez this is some England where two healthy young adults sit on their asses and think that the creator of the universe will look after them if they stand next to a trolley 70 hrs a month.
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Is this a normal JW practice? Warning, this will be a bit graphic.
by Sequoia inthis post may be disturbing and i apologize, but i'm just trying to find out if this is a practice the jw teaches.
i was taken advantage of by a guy claiming to be a jw preacher.
he took me to his house supposedly so i could give his daughter piano lessons, and then he basically forced himself on me while telling me he was in love with me and wanted to marry me.
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freddo
Absolutely press charges.
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baptised nearly 51 years
by Phoebe inbeen reading this site for awhile now.
i have had a long and often tragic life as a jw.
my story is so long because i'm pretty old :) i feel sad i've been locked in fear and guilt for my entire life.
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freddo
A big welcome to you Phoebe.
It's funny how all of us can relate whether we are in North America or Europe or Australia/NZ.
It goes to show the problems are not just in our own corner of the globe but that they are institutional.
Not wishing to make you feel uncomfortable but are you sure your older brother is not a risk to other children? I'm not asking you to comment openly on this unless you want to but it will be worth your reflection.
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Life is changing for me: no pioneering, got a job!
by Skepsis ina month ago i decided to register in this board.
i had decided to step down pioneering but was frightened about the consequences.
i had finished my university degree some months before (despite disaproval from brothers in my congregation) and i had to choose: continue pioneering and working in jobs with no future or starting a career, working full-time.. i was thinking to postpone the decisiton but... i was fed up with preaching.
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freddo
Awakenednow - top posts. Mirrors my experience exactly except I got there a lot more slowly than you describe!
I am deliberately cheerful around witnesses, and especially when I am at the hall. The elders have occasionally got on my case and I just politely and firmly tell them to leave me alone and let me go my own way. Initially I felt guilty for them having to do my old "privileges", but that's their look out for being deluded and dumb like I was.
Elder: "Would you like to work with me in the ministry/have an encouraging visit/discuss anything?"
Freddo: "No thanks!"
Elder: "You don't seem to be your old self - it must be hard now you aren't an elder/we need brothers to reach out."
Freddo: "Thanks for your concern. I'm in a really good place right now. What you see now is the new me! You'll get used to it!"
When anyone asks how I am, how things are (expecting me to be miserable because I have no "privileges", my ministry is minimal, my meeting attendance sparodic and I used to be a fairly high profile elder in the circuit) and look at me all concerned I just say "I'm really good thanks!" or "Never been better!"
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freddo
Raises hand ...
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How Many? - (Marc and Cora Latham)
by Tallon ini came across this very informative and thought provoking video.
it was produced by marc and cora latham, who are quite well known among british activists.. if you have 15 minutes to spare, i encourage you to watch it.
it certainly gave me pause for thought!.
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freddo
Good one. Their interview about their history in leaving jw's on Youtube is good too.
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For those that read the bible, does the true message of scripture still come through in NWT?
by NikL inmy active and in jw wife is up for reading bible together.
thing is she wants to use nwt.. i have problems with that translation as you my imagine.. just wondering if you thought the true message of the bible will shine through the deliberate tampering of the nwt?.
i know many people here don't like or want to read the bible and think it's rubbish anyway, so if that's you, you can save your comments :-).
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freddo
If you have the WT's own interlinear to hand (or on the tablet she uses) that is useful and then you can just say "honey let's look at the interlinear" every time you are aware NWT puts Jehovah for Jesus or Lord when it shouldn't or at least when it is debateable.
Maybe other things like "Wonder why the NWT translates that word as "obeisance" when talking about Jesus and "worship" at all other times?
Or "Wonder why we changed Hebrews 1 v 6 from worship to obeisance?"
That sort of thing.
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Life is changing for me: no pioneering, got a job!
by Skepsis ina month ago i decided to register in this board.
i had decided to step down pioneering but was frightened about the consequences.
i had finished my university degree some months before (despite disaproval from brothers in my congregation) and i had to choose: continue pioneering and working in jobs with no future or starting a career, working full-time.. i was thinking to postpone the decisiton but... i was fed up with preaching.
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freddo
Well done skepsis.
I note you have a PM from The Searcher. He's good. Very good.
I'll send you a pm too.
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JWfacts: Excellent 15 minute video and script presentation - "Growing up a Jehovah's Witness"
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/growing-up-a-jehovahs-witness.php.
"growing up a jehovah's witness" .
following the title, is the statement, .
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freddo
Strange isn't it? I'm 12,000 miles away from Paul Grundy in New Zealand and yet that could have been my life - same publications, same drivel at assemblies - same indoctrination.