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  What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

  by mentalclarity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

  i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

  some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

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  freddo

  Firstly my being naive enough that any concerns and doubts I had would be answered or respected. Then when I realised that was obviously dopey thinking on my part, the loss of family relationships if I DA'D.

  I even hunkered down and "tried harder" for a couple of years and tried to bury my doubts. But I think once we got to 2010 to 2015 (so that there was no way I could fool myself that the generation that saw 1914 might still survive to Armageddon) - gasped at the desperate idiocy of "the overlapping generation" and seeing Steven Lett, dancing trolley carts and DFD daughters phone calls to parents being ignored in convention dramas - well that finished me off.

  The ARC, money grabbing/closing Kingdom halls/booting bethelites, just confirms that if there is a god who cares he certainly doesn't care about Jborg and all its cult adherents.
  
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  William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").

  and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).

  then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.

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  freddo

  Willie the Smellefant.

  To Bethel
  A traveling circus came
  They bought an intelligent elephant
  And Willie was his name.

  Willie the Elephant packed his trunk
  And said hello to the circus
  In he went with a trumpety-trump
  Trump, trump, trump

  
  Willie the Elephant packed his trunk
  And spouted off on jborg

  On he went with a trumpety-trump
  Trump, trump, trump
  
  Night by night
  He danced to the GB's band
  When Willie was leading the big parade
  He looked so proud and grand
  Lots of tricks
  For Willie to perform
  They taught him how to take a bow
  And he took the crowd by storm
  
  
  But the head of the herd was calling
  Far, far away
  They overlapped in the silver light
  On the road to Mandalay
  Willie the Elephant packed his trunk
  And said hello to the graveyard
  Off he went before the last trump
  Trump, trump, trump!
  
  
  
  
  
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  Russian BOE letters of instruction - meetings and $$$ matter$

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  these letters can be found in the original russian on jwforum.eu.. i will provide links but also copy and paste the english translation that was provided for each one.. this first letter was dated may 21, 2017 and concerns instructions on how to handle the donation$.

  (*bolding is mine).

  we should not make the same boxes for all groups.

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  freddo

  On a positive note - if they are being split into little groups for meetings then there is more chance that said group will not suck so strongly on the teat of the WT.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses act like 'Flirts' with people!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we were just musing that jws act in a "flirtatious" manner with people in the community.. they show such "sincere" interest in people when they call.

  they seem like such kind, caring and thoughtful people - really interested in their lives and welfare.. people are often quite impressed with the jws manner, and their well dressed presentation.

  people (especially vulnerable ones who are going through difficult pressures in life), are drawn in and made to feel special by the witnesses as they call back.. return visits take place.

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  freddo

  I gave your post a "like", stuck.

  However, I would take a small issue with you.

  These dumped studies etc. often remain as RV's so that the (especially) pioneers can use them to call on and make "placements" and "video showings" and of course ... drum roll ... COUNT THEIR TIME!

  But any real help like shopping or cleaning or running an errand or taking them out for a little trip - well hell will freeze over first.
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  Road Sweeper vehicle ploughs into JW Carts

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in newcastle town centre.

  uk.. the chronicle live.

  15 june 2017.. a council worker will stand trial after he was accused of being drunk at the wheel of his road sweeper in newcastle city centre.. john paul carruthers, who has since resigned from his post at newcastle city council, was allegedly over the legal drink-drive limit when he ploughed into a jehovah’s witness stand on northumberland street near to haymarket metro station.. prosecuting, james long told newcastle magistrates’ court: “the allegation is that he was driving a newcastle city council road sweeper when he collided first with a jehovah’s witness stand next to haymarket metro station.

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  I catch your drift Simon, but if it had been stated in the newspaper article that a person or people had been injured or killed I don't think "anyone" (*) who generally posts on your forum would have gloated over it or gleefully made a joke of it.

  For a cart to get trashed with no injuries is a quite amusing if insignificant event isn't it?

  (*) Anyone normal that is!
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  The Satisfying Decline Of My Old Congregations Donations

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  according to the uk charity commission, my old kingdom hall is hemorrhaging money and less is coming in.

  long may it continue.. any ideas what a crappy, run down, shack of a kh spends £49,472.87 on in three years?

  they were praying for a new hall for about 10 years until bethel basically stole it off them to build warwick.. .

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  Every congo is a separate charity.

  Of course the branch never requests money. It asks the elders (AKA trustees of the congo charity) to consider what they'd like to propose giving and then of course the elders must put a resolution to the congo in such away that no-one dare vote against.

  A simple majority "yes" vote of baptised publishers makes it a done deal and the resolution goes through.

  Social pressure at its finest and all the little faithful sisters (who make up the majority) bob their heads and raise their hands in agreement.

  The few who don't like it might abstain but numbers are never mentioned beyond "that's a clear majority" by the speaker.
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  Letter to my JW elder brother

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i sent the following letter to my older brother, a jw elder in grand prairie, texas, who actively shuns me since i left the religion for conscientious reasons two years ago.. may 11, 2017. dear ronnie,.

  in the opening scenes of the movie gone with the wind, a field worker hollers out, “”quttin’ time!” big sam protests, saying, “i’s da fo’man on tara.

  i sez when it’s quittin’ time.

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  Excellent letter - hopefully it wasn't "pearls before swine" ...

  Fingers crossed.
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  Road Sweeper vehicle ploughs into JW Carts

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in newcastle town centre.

  uk.. the chronicle live.

  15 june 2017.. a council worker will stand trial after he was accused of being drunk at the wheel of his road sweeper in newcastle city centre.. john paul carruthers, who has since resigned from his post at newcastle city council, was allegedly over the legal drink-drive limit when he ploughed into a jehovah’s witness stand on northumberland street near to haymarket metro station.. prosecuting, james long told newcastle magistrates’ court: “the allegation is that he was driving a newcastle city council road sweeper when he collided first with a jehovah’s witness stand next to haymarket metro station.

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  No. It can't see it says anyone was hurt.

  Care to clarify please, Simon?
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  The Satisfying Decline Of My Old Congregations Donations

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  according to the uk charity commission, my old kingdom hall is hemorrhaging money and less is coming in.

  long may it continue.. any ideas what a crappy, run down, shack of a kh spends £49,472.87 on in three years?

  they were praying for a new hall for about 10 years until bethel basically stole it off them to build warwick.. .

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  My two penn'orth ...

  You can bet your bottom dollar that a five figure or higher sum in the spending column after about 2013 is a sure sign that the "building fund" that the bros and sisters were building up for the refurb of their own hall has been sent to London Bethel for the vanity project at Chelmsford.

  Of course when that has been funded by the sale of the London properties (and then some) and the printing presses finally grind to a halt for the last time and even more deluded bethelites get booted to the kerb - well, then the whole lump sum which will surely be well into the millions will disappear in a puff of smoke to WAR-WICK.
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  London fire..

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. current

  i bleed for the poor souls caught in that.

  no sprinkler system in that domestic building..!.

  tragically the govts various of london learned nothing during the world war..

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  London Bethel on the Ridgeway is less than 10 miles away. I bet they've been sending supplies and donations by the truckload.