SBF said - "I think they previously conceded it might be a cross shape but said ultimately it doesn't matter."
Yes I seem to remember this too SBF.
Posts by freddo
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37Watchtower teaches that Jesus dying on the stake is no longer certain
by Listener inthe watchtower has held for many years that jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.
w 1951 3/15 the above agrees with the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures in its appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross.
they are no longer certain on this point.
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THOUGHTS OF CHAIRMAN ANTHONY MORRIS III
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inwe decided to add the graphic showing my name and position so that you are all made aware that i'm a big cheese among jehovah's witnesses.
for example, i'm not backward about being forward!
so when i made a speech against wearing tight pants some thought i'd be deleted from the governing body!
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freddo
Oh yeah and don't stay in your comfort zone or go after material things and support the brothers in your congregation by "reaching out" like we said in the Watchtower today.
Don't take a better job and go for a comfortable life. The Governing Body loves you, remember!
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No go field service days
by Steel init's canada day today and not just any canada day, it's canada's 150 birthday.
for some strange reason i was actually able to reason with my wife day and she agreed with me.
field service on a special day wouldn't be appropriate.
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freddo
When I was an elder and group overseer - it was the day of Princess Diana's (Saturday 6th Sept 1997) funeral - and even I could see this wasn't the best idea to go knocking on doors.
The UK - especially England - had lost its stiff upper lip in a week of blubbing and emotion and I will admit I was effected too by the wall-to-wall images on the TV from the news channels.
I made the decision that "my" group would not have an arrangement that Saturday morning in view of the public mood, many of whom would be watching the funeral cortege on TV.
There was another elder in my group and his wife (who I got on very well with) phoned me up to lambast me and tell me how bad she thought it was that there was no group.
I said "fine - if you or any one else want to go out you can have the map and go - but for me and mine; we're not." She was not a happy bunny.
Of course some ubers went out, doesn't every hall have some? Less now thankfully.
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Witnesses Respond After Inferno Consumes Apartment Building in London
by NikL injehovah’s witnesses are assisting victims of a catastrophic fire that engulfed the grenfell tower, a 24-story apartment building in the north kensington area of london, in the early morning hours of june 14, 2017. authorities are reporting that at least 79 people were killed.. four witnesses were evacuated from the apartment building, two of whom were residents of grenfell tower.
fortunately, none of them were injured, although the witnesses’ apartments were among those completely destroyed in the blaze.
witnesses that live near the now fire-gutted apartment building provided food, clothing, and monetary aid to their fellow members and their families that were affected.
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freddo
London Bethel is less than ten miles from this tower - what are those self serving bastards on the Branch Committee doing to help?
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For all in the USA - Happy 4th of July!
by ttdtt init's nice to say that:).
i am looking forward to a 4th party with "worldly people" and fireworks!.
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freddo
The Colonies have declared Independence!!!??? How dare they?
I shall write to "The Times" in the strongest possible terms!
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The saddest song of all time?
by Bad_Wolf ini would pick this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th2w6oxx0kq.
i don't know how so many are happy or fine if thinking this life is it.
haven't lost parents yet, but when with them, sometimes i'll think of this song.
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Can't find "hot" article through the WT Library Search?
by StephaneLaliberte ini just saw a video from mike and kim where (@6:00) she says:.
you know what i noticed in the new watchtower cd-roms?
is when you do a search for certain things that they would deem maybe apostates or certain questions, you can't find them in the search.. i know that sometimes, they get carried away and are not always factual.
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freddo
"You can search with "pi*atas" or "pi*ata""
Oh yeah! Thanks.
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Can't find "hot" article through the WT Library Search?
by StephaneLaliberte ini just saw a video from mike and kim where (@6:00) she says:.
you know what i noticed in the new watchtower cd-roms?
is when you do a search for certain things that they would deem maybe apostates or certain questions, you can't find them in the search.. i know that sometimes, they get carried away and are not always factual.
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freddo
I know that if you search for the article on the pinata and the question from readers about why pinatas are ok but not other celebrations you get nothing if you don't put the accent thingummy above the "n" it doesn't show.
This one ... italics mine.
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Piñatas I read with interest the article “The Piñata—An Ancient Tradition.” (September 22, 2003) It left me with some questions. The ties to false religion are well-documented. But the article seemed to take the position that as long as it doesn’t bother someone’s conscience, it is OK. What about birthdays and holidays such as Christmas?
S. W., United States
“Awake!” responds: Christians refrain from any celebrations or customs that continue to involve false religious beliefs or activities that violate Bible principles. For example, the Bible definitely puts birthday celebrations in a bad light. (Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6-10) However, if it is very obvious that a custom has no current false religious significance and involves no violation of Bible principles, each Christian must make a personal decision as to whether he will follow such a custom.
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Convention invitations
by dothemath inso everyone is supposed to get all excited about the invitation work starting tomorrow, according to the announcement from the platform.. maybe this makes sense if you're giving out invitations in the city where the convention is, but what if you're many hours away?.
a huge part of western canada is scheduled to attend edmonton alberta this july.
so how does that go over giving out invitations in winnipeg, about a 13 hour drive(that's just driving time).. i know some are actually planning on flying there, so i can't see getting excited about getting the public to make the trek.. i was curious how this is going over in other areas?.
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freddo
Utter, utter complete and utter - waste of time.
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2017 Sunday RC Final Talk & Comments About 1975
by baldeagle inmany of us here have commented on the deceitful friday afternoon video shown at the 2017 rc that discussed 1975.. the video attempted to shift the blame onto congregation members for the fiasco saying, "some were looking to a certain date as signifying the end of this old system of things.".
this same video mentions how, “a few even went so far as selling their homes and quitting their jobs.”.
we all know that the wt leadership created this teaching and endorsed it right up to its abject failure.. now below is the concluding talk given on sunday at the rc.
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freddo
And in twenty years time GB 3.0 will go on about how "some people" didn't like the generation change of 1995 because they were serving to a date ...
Luke 21 v 8 ...