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  last psychology session tomorrow

  by Phoebe in

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  so tomorrow is my last appointment with my psychologist.

  we are going to commemorate it by giving each other a letter.. sept 2016 i sat, a quivering wreck, in her waiting room.

  i was terrified.

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  freddo

  Well done Phoebe. So very well done!
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  Why is the loving shunning arrangement only mentioned

  by poopie in

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  one time on latest outlines which includes 2 circuit assemblies if so loving should it not be emphasised ?.

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  freddo

  Nor me.
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  Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

  by mrmagic in

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  due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

  can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

  would hate to lose all those good videos!

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  freddo

  So WT is hurting. Good.
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  How many do you figure are converted through the door to door ministry?

  by HereIgo in

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  2. experiences

  i regular pioneered for 2 years and never have actually converted anyone through the door to door work, in fact, i only knew a few individuals that joined this way.

  most were born-in or at least had some type of family influence.

  i had several bible studies but they all got cold feet when things got serious and potential baptism was discussed.

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  freddo

  In the fifties through eighties they sometimes came in through door to door, Less in the 90's especially after the "generation" change. Virtually zero now with internet and overlapping generations.

  In my hall the last of "stable" (if there is such a thing in JW land) ones came in in the 1980's.
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  Bible contradictions.

  by pleaseresearch in

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  what are your biggest, funniest, scariest, etc.... wait wt says there are non hahahah.

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  freddo

  Good catch truth_b_known.

  I love this community! Fifty years a JW and I learn new things here I never heard of before!
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  Your Top Ten Favourite Movies?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  2. entertainment

  just thought i'd start a thread about favourite movies.

  mine, in no particular order, are .... alien - a great visual film.

  the chest-bursting scene is still great to watch, no matter how many times i've seen the movie.

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  freddo

  No particular order - but at the moment it is ...

  Aliens

  Alien

  Dead Poets Society
  

  Hacksaw Ridge

  Terminator

  Terminator 2 Judgement Day

  Apollo 13

  Cast Away

  Zulu

  A Fistful of Dollars

  Others float in and out of my top ten like Jaws, Pale Rider or The Good the Bad and the Ugly, Deliverance, Prometheus, Capricorn One ...
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  How much do you think the internet has hurt JW growth?

  by HereIgo in

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  the internet is what helped bring me and so many others out of this evil organization or at least confirmed our doubts.

  i have to say, i have seen quite a few youtube videos recently of ex jw's secretly recording their interactions inside of different congregations, halls, etc and see how empty the halls are!

  so many people comment on how the attendance is so low, far more emptier than when i was in 6 years ago, even on a weekday meeting.

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  freddo

  I remember similar Pale.E.

  At our D.C. the "aghast brother" didn't specify what he saw on his laptop but it obviously shocked the poor darling to the core and he resolved to stay away from the nasty internet.
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  "... climate of disfellowshipping in Hull currently... " - Hull Daily Mail

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  article from the above news paper... .

  http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-jehovahs-witnesses-speak-out-444185.

  maybe boe in north east england having an attack of zealous fervour!

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  Oh look! Polly Parrot is parroting the half truths from JWdotborg website with "theocratic warfare" ...

  "A spokesman explained the process of disfellowship and shunning.

  He said: “Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned. In fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.

  “We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped.

  “The religious ties someone who is disfellowshipped had with their family changes, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue.”"

  Deceitful little parrot repeating the deceitful words on the deceitful website.
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  JW.org is a real estate and publishing company disguesd as a religion.

  by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

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  since my awakening i have tried to understand why and how people could continue to believe so blindly in a proven false "religious" cult that has such an extensive and detailed record of scandals, lies and cover ups???

  i've come to the personal conclusion that there are three major reasons.

  i call them the 3 f-ups!

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  freddo

  LV said "Uncon - do you think there are lots of others just playin the game?"

  I don't know about "lots" but in my hall there I think the broad brush proportions in varying degrees are:

  A) Full on believers - active not letting doubts get through. 40%

  B) Believers that "struggle" to believe - shown by lethargy, ME type symptoms, mental illness etc. 40%

  C) Those that know the gig is up but go through the motions. 5-10%

  D) Memorial "surfacers" (who maybe a subset of B or C) only 10-15%
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  How much do you think the internet has hurt JW growth?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the internet is what helped bring me and so many others out of this evil organization or at least confirmed our doubts.

  i have to say, i have seen quite a few youtube videos recently of ex jw's secretly recording their interactions inside of different congregations, halls, etc and see how empty the halls are!

  so many people comment on how the attendance is so low, far more emptier than when i was in 6 years ago, even on a weekday meeting.

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  I liken it to the gears of a car.

  1st Gear: Up until the mid-2000s the internet was only available on the family PC or the worker with their laptop and internet access. Also WT was very scathing of the internet and gave it a red light.

  2nd Gear: Mid-2000's onwards Smartphones and tablets became increasingly available and surfing the net in privacy became much more easy to all family members. WT gave an amber light to limited use of the internet by going on line itself.

  3rd Gear: We've shifted into this gear with pre-teens and poorer countries getting smart technology. JWborg is in full flow with the internet being embraced with a tacit green light. JWTV is out there in all its awful parody/glory. Everyone from 9 to 90 is being encouraged to go on line to receive JW litter-ature. Trolley-Dolleys encourage the public to check out JWborg. (What else will they check?)

  Result? Increasing concern, apathy, disbelief, quiet rebellion and out and out apostasy. In the field only the mentally ill come in and only the born-in kids get baptised.