if you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?
just the video or some commentary too?.
i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".
Love the Freddo references!
NBD said: "Wow I wish I was in your congregation."
To be totally accurate - the elder I quoted was in another cong. that shares the hall where they had the same item - and our conversation was prompted by me asking him why we kept on having all these money items.
if you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?
just the video or some commentary too?.
i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".
If you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled? Just the video or some commentary too?
I have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits". (He didn't say "child abuse" but I'm sure that is what he meant)
Yet another said "I haven't donated for months and I wont start now!"
Of course everyone else claps and nods their heads, but this constant money talk is causing a few ripples.
ask any jw this one question.
are there any apostles from the 1st century still walking the earth alive today ?.
100% will say there are no apostles from the 1st century alive today.
Another dub explanation was that James, John and Peter "saw Jesus in all his glory" at the transfiguration which was "representative" of his return.
january 2012, at the age of 24 i “woke up” to the truth about the truth.
march 2012, i joined this esteemed message board and was welcomed.
this forum was such a help.
Congratulations Capt. Obvious.
Please keep posting because it is great to know the possibilities even if our loved ones are not where your wife is yet.
i recently had to accompany an older family member out of state to a family reunion.
it was a big reunion and not much was overtly made of the fact that i am "misguided" and not attending meetings (lost soul that i am) which was nice.
the thing i noticed that i was most struck by was all the dietary quirks in evidence during our 3 days together.
Just quoting my earlier post (plus an edit afterwards) : "As a broadbrush comment I find the more highly strung someone is the more likely they are to be high on the special dietary curve."
Edit: Also the more highly strung someone is the more likely they will have given me a down vote for the above comment.
yup, you read right.
despite other personal turmoil that needs to be addressed, my family has decided to go nuts over halloween decorations being "too close" to our yard.
a new family just moved in next door; their kids are super young.
I think AFRIKANMAN's post "Trumps" the rest.
i've recently been at an assembly here in romania and there was an announced they were running a 10,000 euro deficit and urging all attendees to donate more money besides the already 5k has was donated during that day.
i really don't understand these things.
it's their own assembly hall.
K99 - "The reality is of course that individuals don't care even when it's pointed out."
True Dat.
he became co when he was 23. i was wondering is he the youngest co ever?
his name is jonathan smith.
he is from south dakota.
Well Nathan Knorr was only 36 when he became president.
yup, you read right.
despite other personal turmoil that needs to be addressed, my family has decided to go nuts over halloween decorations being "too close" to our yard.
a new family just moved in next door; their kids are super young.
Looks like they'll have to build a fence so that there is a clear demarcation!
Another "fine witness" in la-la land!
i've recently been at an assembly here in romania and there was an announced they were running a 10,000 euro deficit and urging all attendees to donate more money besides the already 5k has was donated during that day.
i really don't understand these things.
it's their own assembly hall.
The circuit finances and assembly hall finances are a scam indeed. There was a pot of about £800,000 in the maintenance fund a few years ago from an assembly hall in the UK (built by and with the donations of local brothers and sisters) which got spirited away to Watchtower London branch in the same way as a Kingdom Hall gets transferred to the branch office and any sums in the "remodelling/renovation/new build pot" goes too.
So in the UK they reckon that £10 per head is the "suggested donation rate" so an assembly of 1,000 people "costs" £10,000. This to sit in a hall built by the region's brothers and sisters, cleaned by them, looked after by them renovated by them - all for free.
Then three quarters of the way through the program the Circuit Assembly Overseer or his Asst. (Local free labour wannabe elders) gets up and says "at this point" the deficit is blah blah blah. The gullible put money into the box or via credit card at the credit card paying point(s) (Yup they got those too!) and then any surplus over a few hundred pounds is voted away "for the worldwide work" to branch HQ by the circuit elders at the "suggestion" of the Circuit Assembly Overseer.
So instead of building up a healthy balance they start each assembly with little money from the previous one and "need" to tell of a whopping deficit - and off they go again.
Now assuming they have about 35 weekends so 70 days use as assemblies per year at 10K this means they have an income of £700,000. Take out heat and light, cleaning materials and a caretaker couple who live on site and a car then I don't see how they don't make at least £600,000. Let's be generous and say "only" £500,000.
Then every 20 years do a refurbishment with free labour of course.
Nice little earner.
