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  Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Baker Who Refused to Bake Cake for Gay Couple

  by Simon in

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  seems like such an obviously correct decision to overturn the previous overreach - it should never have been necessary to go to the supreme court but happened because the rights of the religious were being ignored.. as the fundamental level, no one should be able to compel you to work for them or to provide services that go against your beliefs, and certainly not have the government be able to force you to comply.. if this was allowed there would be so many unreconcilable situations that would clog up courts over nonsense.. i also have little patience for these activists that intentionally look to be offended.

  it really doesn't do their cause any good to go round looking to make trouble for people.

  it's also misguided because it ends up strengthening religious rights over effectively stupid issues.. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/supreme-court-sides-with-baker-who-turned-away-gay-couple.html.

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  freddo

  A similar case has been plodding through the courts in Great Britain/UK (specifically Northern Ireland)

  NOW GET THIS - it is still illegal in Northern Ireland for same sex marriage and yet right now the Supreme Court of the UK is hearing this case ...

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43976101

  And if you want to sit through it you can go to the UK supreme court and watch the video record of all four sessions. (Spoiler alert - decision reserved not expected before summer 2018 or even 2019)
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  I Like A Girl From Kingdom Hall Please HELP!!!!!!!!

  by kennylazo1 in

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  2. relationships

  abby has been in my congregation for about 2 years i think.

  when she first came i thought she was very beautiful and i still do.

  shes actually one of the most prettiest darkskins you will ever see.

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  freddo

  Hi Kenny!

  I'm gonna take a guess that you are a mid-late teen and the young sister you are interested in is at least 20. Talking in general terms if "Abby" is doing a demonstration at an assembly then she is likely a pioneer or someone in very "good standing" in the circuit.

  She will quite possibly be looking for no one at the moment but if she is it might be a "spiritual man" to marry and serve as a pioneer with. If she is as pretty as you say then at this moment she will likely enjoy having the attention of men older than you - perhaps her age or even mid to late 20's. They may well be Ministerial Servants.

  The fact that you are 4 years younger than her and newly baptised goes against you because you will be viewed as a spiritual "babe" - especially if you are not pioneering.

  As Londo said - she is not interested. Honestly, you would know.

  I am very old now - in my fifties but I remember at age 18 having an amazing crush on a 17 year old who was a lovely very pretty young girl at the time and who has grown up to be a lovely lady who is married with grandchildren now.

  She was kind and went out with me to the cinema and sports centres two or three times but it was obvious she wasn't attracted to me like I was to her.

  My heart was aching - I literally cried myself to sleep at times such was the intensity of my feelings.

  Soon she found her husband to be who was five or six years older than her and who is a really nice guy - he just was more mature than me as you would expect and she was into him.

  A couple of innocent (I was a believing devout JW at the time) girlfriends later I met my wife to be. I still have fond memories of the girl I had intense feelings for but you will get over it even if it feels like forever now.

  My advice looking back? Put any excess energy into making yourself employable and better educated.

  When you are a bit older you'll find good relationships if you have honest decent intentions not to take advantage of women but to love them and be loved back.
  

  Take your time to really investigate the history of Jehovahs Witnesses and ask questions here; we really want to help.
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  Have No Fear! The Beard is Here! T Shirt

  by Iamallcool in

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  2. friends

  when i was young and i bought a simple shirt saying have no fear.

  my late dad instructed me to return the shirt back to the store!

  i reluctantly did so.

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  freddo

  Imagine a big wide tie with that on it - wear it for a student talk at the KH - whether you have a beard or not!
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  freddo

  Thanks for this - looking at parts 2 through 5 they don't seem to play to the end of their allotted time but "hang".
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. friends

  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  freddo

  I think that they (Slim will hate this ...) will stay self sufficient.

  They will just sell off KH's in a reactionary way depending how the lawsuits stack up. More lawsuits will bring "NEW LIGHT" of one meeting a week at one triplex KH per city or area - each then be shared by 15-20 congregations.

  Let me explain by example.

  Plymouth in the UK - now 8 congregation sharing 3 halls.

  1 hall is a modern 3 hall complex where 5 congs and a Polish group meet - the other three are slightly outlying with one cong per hall.

  By moving those three (selling their KH's of course!) into the 3 hall complex you could have 9 congs and one group. THAT is with two meetings a week!

  NEXT STAGE

  Drop to one per week with a 30 mile radius and this complex could house 20 and have congregations from as far afield as Bodmin, Launceston and Totnes.

  Another super triple hall each in Truro, Torquay and Exeter would mean that Devon and Cornwall would have only 4 jw.borg buildings for 60 odd congregations with journeys largely on 70 mph dual carriageways/motorways.

  In the "west" the borg is so property rich and with so much opportunity to go on line it is unlikely to have big financial woes for a long time to come.
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  JW UK Branch update 2018: "Follow the White Elephant"

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/y5uydq1mwtm.

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  freddo

  That was brilliant! (Loved the "Steptoe and Son" theme tune towards the end - Brits will understand)

  I'm sure we all knew about NO MORE PRINTERY - but the point about 14 accommodation blocks down to 5 shows up what a vanity project it was/is!
  

  I think some of the Peter Bell and GB (esp TPT) stuff was cut for comic effect so I wouldn't take it as gospel.

  Maybe Fay Dehr will tell us more.
  
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  WT Finger Pointing

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you have examples of wt style finger pointing (with 3 pointing right back).

  "satans organization claims to be gods organization, and persecutes those who are actually members of gods organization.

  satans organization sails under the high-sounding name of "christendom".

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  freddo

  Try this ...

  *** g94 3/8 p. 28 Watching the World ***

  More Victims Sue Church

  Victims of sexual abuse in Australian religious institutions run by Catholic “brothers” are banding together to take what The Canberra Times describes as one of the biggest class actions in Australian legal history. An application to allow more than 250 writs to be lodged for compensation was filed recently by an organization representing former child victims.

  The abuse is alleged to have occurred from the 1940’s right up until the 1980’s, and the main defendants cited in the writs include several Catholic archdioceses. One Marist brother has already been convicted of sexual assault. The lawyer representing the victim in this case said: “We’re facing the tip of the iceberg. There’s a deluge of actions likely to occur in the next few years. All religious institutions would need to be concerned.”

  
  
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  A Captive organization . Explained perfectly by Angus Stewart during the ARC Australian investigation

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyltpct8dc8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyltpct8dc8.

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  freddo

  O'Brien (Branch co-ordinator Australia) Lies.

  From 1:25 - 1:45

  He says the whole purpose for DF/DA is to help the person see the benefits of associating.

  From 1:45 - 2:00

  He says a DA'd person particularly (rather than a DF'd person) doesn't have to go through a lengthy procedure to come back (to jw's)

  Liar, Liar, (tight) pants on fire!
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  It's not disfelowipping it's shunning canada

  by poopie in

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  human rigjts..

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  freddo

  I understood poopie to say ...

  "It's not just the disfellowshipping - it's the shunning, Canada!"

  I get that the cult might DF and stop association in meetings and ministry. But there is no reason to enforce shunning. Especially close family shunning.

  So you get an uptick from me poopster!

  RIGJT?
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  District overseers

  by Boredposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are they really gone in the u.s.?

  what replaces them?.

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  freddo

  DO's officially finished on August 31st 2014. Also the travelling overseer upper limit of age 70 came in then and so that naturally culled a lot of them along with many CO's too.

  The DO's used to usually get drawn from the ranks of the CO's. They oversaw the District conventions, went with the CO twice a year to congregations to "encourage" and train them.

  They would also ride shotgun with a regular CO on more difficult or multi-circuit "problems".

  Now the longer serving and more capable CO's oversee the REGIONAL conventions and also go with the less experienced CO's to "problem" congregations but less frequently than twice a year.