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Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?
by BlackSpirit in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
freddo

BS quoted - "Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive" - Hebrews 13:17.
He forgets the context which is a few verses back at Hebrews 13:7 - 9.
(Hebrews 13:7-9) . . .Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith.
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, and forever.
9 Do not be led astray by various and strange teachings, for it is better for the heart to be strengthened by undeserved kindness than by foods, which do not benefit those occupied with them.
(Bold italics added.)
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Tommie Robinson
by zeb in
1. jw
2. friends
unconfirmed reports this am (australian time) that tr has been transferred to a maximum security prison..
freddo

A snippet from an Independent (UK newspaper) article ...
A judge initially banned reporting on Robinson’s imprisonment but the order was lifted following a challenge by The Independent and local media.
Robinson, who was jailed under his real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, had already been handed a suspended sentence for the same crime and was told he could have caused the trial to collapse.
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Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?
by BlackSpirit in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
freddo

Whose "Witnesses" are we to be according to Acts 1 v 8?
Jehovah's Witnesses or ...
Jesus' Witnesses?
131
Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?
by BlackSpirit in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
freddo

BS wrote:
The almighty God has not changed.
Probably not. Look how he behaves in Judges Chapters 19 through 21 ...
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The story of my congregation in the last five years.
by Crazyguy in
1. jw
2. experiences
let’s start with the good news for the congregation that is.

two new sisters were added to the group a mother and her daughter.

then the bad news.
freddo

Also in a congregation of 70 ish I know well ...
Guess how many baptised publishers there are under the age of 26.
Two.
And unbaptised publishers? (pre teens, teens, bible studies)
Zero.
And over age 55?
35 - half of the congregation!
And how many young women/teens have left after growing up in the borg in the last five years? How many older women have DA'd or deliberately gone inactive?
6. + 2.
And older ones who have died in the last five years?
10.
11
Zeal vs Fanaticism. What is the difference?
by stuckinarut2 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a good friend of ours and i were chatting the other day about the difference between a zealous person and fanatical person.. what is the difference?.

why is someone praised for being "zealous" , but another person is mocked or condemned for being a "fanatical" person?.

how would jws be classed?.
freddo

"Zeal" is when you agree with the thing the person is zealous for.
"Fanatic" is when you don't ...

Yet "Zealot" has the same connotation as Fanaticism.
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LEAKED: UK Branch Relocation Update 11-Jun-2018
by Fay Dehr in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://youtu.be/szsw4mwni40.
freddo

Video production centre eh?
So the ~~industrial unit which Satan's world throws up in a few weeks~~ err... lovingly reduced printery building or lorry garage can have the camera team moved over from Mill Hill.
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The story of my congregation in the last five years.
by Crazyguy in
1. jw
2. experiences
let’s start with the good news for the congregation that is.

two new sisters were added to the group a mother and her daughter.

then the bad news.
freddo

A congregation I know all too well ...
7 elders serving (3 are in their 70's and 80's - 2 are late 50's and mid 60's)
8 ex elders sitting in the audience ranging from 1 x DF'd, 3 x sat sulking/not answering, 2 "completely nuts/mental breakdowns" - medical term , 2 x separated from wives.
2 MS's - 1 aged 60 plus, 1 recently moved in aged 30 (poor sap).
Dropped from high 80's in publishers when formed in early 1990's, down to 70.
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LEAKED: UK Branch Relocation Update 11-Jun-2018
by Fay Dehr in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://youtu.be/szsw4mwni40.
freddo

We have a new phrase - instead of "The Bethel Family" it's now the "BRD family".
And in the same way as all the 40 and 50 age group "Bethel Family" members got kicked to the kerb when they were of no use so the "BRD Family" members will be sent away once the usefulness has been wrung out of them.
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Austria Begins Closing Mosques and Deporting Imams
by cofty in
1. social
2. current
austria, a member of the eu since 1995, is a country of 8.8 million people with a muslim population of around 600,000 mostly turkish immigrants.

in 2015 it passed an 'islam law' prohibiting foreign funding of religious groups and creating a duty for muslim organisations to have 'a positive fundamental view towards state and society'.. many mosques in austria have continued to receive money from turkish muslim organisations so the new right-wing government have decided to enforce the law.

seven mosques have been identified for closure and 60 imams are to be either deported or refused visas.
freddo

Humbled wrote ... (bold italics added)
"Also—This expulsion of non- compliant imams on the basis of a reasonable law ( of three years standing!) is not outrageous. The peaceful contingent of Muslims at Finsbury Park Mosque in the UK welcomed the authorities who helped deport the radical cleric that stirred trouble for them."
I think there are a large majority of peaceful Muslims who'd like to integrate more (or at least cause no trouble) but who are fearful to do so because of the social expectations of the group leaders and peers. (IMAMS)
They like it when the secular authorities take action in the same way as many JW parents like it when a court orders a blood transfusion for their minor child.