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  Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

  by Stumpy in

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  i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

  you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

  what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

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  freddo

  Don't leave it so long next time, Stumpy!

  Great to hear from you.
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  What is the current pulse in the organization with the reductions?

  by SouthCentral in

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  i have not seen jehovah’s witnesses in my neighborhood for several years now.

  it appears that the cart witnessing has taken over.

  congregations are being consolidated and witnesses are being forced to travel a greater distance than before.the burdens/privileges of elders seem to be ever increasing!.

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  freddo

  Just look on "Google trends" and punch in jw.borg (minus the "b" ) and look at the graph where it spikes in 2013/2014 and falls to the floor in the years afterwards. Cart work is the biggest waste of time ever.

  In the nearest circuit to me two congregations have been disbanded, (one in 2014 and one in 2018) one kingdom hall closed and sold and another is closing and being sold next month.

  I hear grumbling resignation, more apathy, less ministry and apathetic depression spreading. Young ones are leaving and getting on with their lives and old ones are dying more quickly than any are coming in. Attendances are down.

  I hear anecdotally of more and more mental health issues surfacing too. (Can't make meetings, more declared ME.) The only ones coming in are the vulnerable and the fruit loops.
  
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  freddo

  Well, like I said on page 14 in this thread 17 days ago ...

  Anyway - stop worrying about Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, he's getting three square meals a day, TV, exercise and enjoying the kudos from his fellow lags (and probably a good few of his guards) - he might even be writing another book.

  He'll be out before Xmas.

  ... ... ...

  I'm a true prophet. Bit earlier than I thought but a bit like "something happened in 1914" so the JW's were right - so am I.
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  Apostasy Movie

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i found it extremely accurate, and as such, not a pleasant experience.

  merely reinforced my certainty regarding the org's venomous teachings & practices.. a very well made film for non-jw's to get a good insight into the minds & attitudes of the cult and its members, but not really one i'd urge faders to go and see.

  victim returning to the scene of the crime scenario.. opinions will differ..

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  It is a superb, accurate (in portraying north west England and its JW's), moving and even an understanding and empathetic film. Well deserving its 4 and 5 star review ratings by the British mainstream press.

  But along with its empathy it holds back no punches in revealing the understated drudgery-in-service and consequential horror of putting the views of 8 men in New York ahead of what is truly best for yourself and your family.

  I cannot think of a better actress to play the resolute and distressed mother than Siobhan Finneran.
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  BBC Radio 2 Vanessa Feltz show. Shunning and Jehovah's Witnesses

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  on air now..

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  freddo

  Not a good witness. Mention of the U.N. - 1975 - and shunning.

  Feltz read out the Jborg lie showpiece which at first glance says we reach out and don't shun and DF'd can attend meetings.

  Those listeners that then phoned in disabused her of that notion and put her right with their personal shunning experiences.

  A good half hour piece for exposing the lies of the jw's.
  

  This was heard nationwide in the UK on a flagship BBC radio 2 show. (the largest radio audience in the UK)
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  Tour de France Accident

  by The Fall Guy in

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  after crossing the finishing line in paris, a group of the tour de france cyclists went straight into the river.. french police have said the men were all insane!.

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  freddo

  Then to dry off they were taken to a nearby camp site.

  French Police arrested them for loitering with intent.
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  Don't even try it!

  by JTrottigy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are many here who think they can infiltrate my web-site.

  be warned that we administrators of jwtalk call the listed congregation on your application for membership in our site to verify if they know you!.

  some of you have slipped through the cracks and got into our site, but rest assured, we will find you out and ban you!.

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  freddo

  Come on Rodders, is this you? Brits will understand.

  
  
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  Evolution of a congregation 1978- 2018

  by joey jojo in

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  our whole congregation was excited as we stood in front of our brand new kh and smiled for the photographer from the local newspaper.. for years we had been travelling 30 mins each way to attend the meetings and now, after a big effort of donations and hard work we finally had our own kh in our own town.

  in the picture, there were 45 smiling faces of all ages, from the newborn to the old brother that had turned 100 and everyone in between.

  the year was 1978.. the congregation grew and shrank over the years, probably hitting its peak during the 80's and 90's, there was even a renovation in the early 90's that the local brothers donated towards, for the benefit of the local town to hear the good news about the imminent arrival of the end.

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  freddo

  The congregation in which I have plenty of stats for goes like this ...

  Started with 75 publishers in 1989.
  

  By 1995 peaked at 89 and then it's been a slow steady decline. By 2003 it was 82

  By 2014 it was 76.

  By 2018 it is now 69.

  22 of these are aged 60 or older ... and 16 of those are over 70.
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  Regional Convention Stat. from the UK

  by freddo in

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  another fantastic increase i mean stagnation for the jborg chariot .... cardiff, wales, uk convention july 27-29th 2018. attendances 3500/3600 (friday) - 4150 (sunday) approx.. baptisms - wait for it ... drumroll ... 10..

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  freddo

  Another fantastic increase I mean stagnation for the JBorg chariot ...

  Cardiff, Wales, UK convention July 27-29th 2018

  Attendances 3500/3600 (Friday) - 4150 (Sunday) approx.

  Baptisms - wait for it ... drumroll ... 10.
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  How many child molesters do you personally know of in the J.W's?

  by karter in

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  2. child-abuse

  were are they now and what position are they in.. lets do a running count.. c.o.b.e was interfering with his daughter,d.f,reinstated died in good standing.. branch oveersear multiple young children d.f,reinstated in good standing.. publisher interfeared with small child in the k.h d.f not sure were he is.. publisher sexually abused 3 relatives no action taken in good standing.. current elder raped his sister years ago little action taken was not an elder at the time.. publisher sexualy abused young girl d.f,reinstater now in good standing.. m.s multiple young girls d.f,died trying to get reinstated.. so thats 7.. karter..

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  freddo

  These perpetrators I knew from my old circuit and knew them to speak to (before I knew about them or afterwards when I felt obligated to) before they moved away or got DF'd.

  1. I became aware of this one when was a teenager aged 16 through 19 who during that time abused younger boys sexually. This was 1980's. He was a pioneer and was DF'd when it came to light but no report was made to the police at the time. It was about 20 years later by one of the (now adult) victims and the police investigated it.

  2. The next one was the high profile (in England) Michael Porter (from Somerset) case in 2007 - he was a late teen through mid twenties pioneer and MS when he perpetrated his acts of child abuse much earlier. Several of his victims were either too young to know what he did to them or too fearful to tell anyone. Eventually a victim, now an adult told him that if he didn't self report to the Police then he (the victim) would. Porter coughed to even the cases where the kids were too young to have remembered and he pleaded guilty. He got a suspended sentence but this was appealed and eventually he got sentenced to 18 months real jail time.

  Porter had already left the area, married, become an elder and a bethelite before being exposed. He was in an English London flagship congregation and was service overseer on a body of elders which included some of the London Branch Committee. He got a public reproof and a District Overseer was sent to placate his home congregation when they wanted to know why he wasn't disfellowshipped.

  I believe he has a child of his own who he is not permitted to have contact with unless supervised by social services! What a mess.

  3. Another one was when I was an elder and we "inherited" a now dead paedo (twisted, self entitled bastard - hooray!) who had done jailtime and been sent to our town by the authorities. They told us that he was a paedo and needed watching. We informed "family heads" of his background; but several older sisters found out through the grapevine and "were incensed" at not being told. One who had been abused as a child DA'd over it.

  So 3 plus others that I knew about in less detail from other JW's.