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  The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

  i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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  Doubter - "Let me revisit my statement. They didn’t directly thank the guardian after re reading it, they instead said they were grateful it was brought to their attention."

  You apologise like your masters the WT did for 1975, Dubter ...

  WT - " *** w80 3/15 p. 17 par. 5 Choosing the Best Way of Life ***

  ... considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.

  
  
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  Adding insult to injury when the WT kicks out a congregation from their hall

  by nowwhat? in

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  not only does the organization confiscate the hall the congregation owns.

  but then the former congregants are told to continue to pay for utilities and they are still responsible for upkeep and maintenance.

  so they still have to cut the grass etc.

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  I can confirm the OP scenario happening across the pond here in the UK.

  A nearby old hall had two congs. The hall paid for and sat empty awaiting sale.

  One cong dissolved and the funds it had been saving for a replacement hall (£100K) taken by - err donated to - the London branch.

  The remaining congregation got sent to another hall and its savings funds (£125K) went to the London branch AND IT HAD TO MAINTAIN ITS OLD HALL until it was sold for over £350,000.

  So that's over a half a million pounds of hard saved money/property gone over a couple of years to the FAT CATS in London.
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  The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

  i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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  Show a copy of the letter thanking the Guardian please Dubter. I mean Doubter.

  Now why didn't they tell the jw's they'd thanked the Guardian?
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  Unsung Movie Villains

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  we all know the big movie villains get a lot of credit and appear in multiple movies - the shark in jaws, darth vader, and before them dracula, wolfman, frankenstein's monster, etc.. but there must be plenty of villains that get forgotten.. i thought clarence boddicker (played by kurtwood smith) was fantastic in robocop (1987) - a real psychopath.. another character who springs to mind is vilos cohaagen (ronny cox) in total recall (1990), i thought he was very good too.. obviously these and other movie villains do get some critical acclaim but they don't get their own franchise and they rarely get universal praise.. maybe 'unsung movie villains' is the wrong phrase but hopefully you get what i'm trying to say!

  xd.

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  Paul Reiser: Carter J Burke, the sleazy Weyland-Yutani executive in Aliens who is more interested in his career and money than the team fighting the aliens.
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  Who Do You Think Will Be The Nominees For President In The Next US Election?

  by minimus in

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  i think trump will be the nominee for the republicans and the democrats... i have no clue.

  i hope bernie sanders runs again and wonder if hillary would dare go for a rematch..

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  Any Kennedys left?
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  Who are your heroes in life??

  by karter in

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  someone you looked up to some who did something amazing?.

  i live in new zealand and 1 of mine is sir edmound hillary,a great yet humble man.. he and tenzing norgay were the 1st to reach the top of mt everest.it went to the grave with both of them who put there foot on top 1st,neather of them reviled that.. he did alot for the sherpa's of napal making sure they were payed well for their work as well as setting up schools there.. he came to my school and gave a speech then walked around the play ground talking to us children,his phone number was in the phone book and he would talk to anyone that rang him partially children doing a project on everest.. the british tryed to say that mallory and irvine may have made it to the top of everest years before,hillarys reply.....they may have but i made it down again.. karter..

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  Simon for this forum and maintaining it for nigh on twenty years.

  And Angharad for putting up with him.

  Ray Franz

  Barbara Anderson

  Oh, and Alexander Fleming
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  Serena William is 'fighting for women'?!

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  so serena williams lost the us open final 6-2, 6-4 to naomi osaka, her japanese-american opponent.. williams received three code violations from the umpire, carlos ramos: .

  1. a warning for illegal coaching (subsequently admitted by williams's coach).

  2. a point penalty for smashing her racquet.

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  She will start losing more and more. She's certainly a powerhouse, but at 36 she will find the youngsters ten and fifteen years younger will just catch her up. Can't fight nature.

  Now she can coolly and gracefully play for another couple of years raking in the lolly and the plaudits like Federer (just turned 37) might but getting beaten more and more, or she can have hissy fits and tantrums.

  If the latter then she could just throw in the towel.
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  When the WT study goes beyond what is written in the Bible.

  by skin in

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  in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.

  just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..

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  I suppose it depends whether the "they" in this ...

  (Acts 2:1)  Now while the day of the Festival of Pentecost was in progress, they were all together at the same place. . .

  Encompasses this ...

  (Acts 1 v 13,14) 13 When they arrived, they went up into the upper room where they were staying. There were Peter as well as John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bar·tholʹo·mew and Matthew, James the son of Al·phaeʹus, and Simon the zealous one, and Judas the son of James. 14 With one purpose all of these were persisting in prayer, together with some women and Mary the mother of Jesus and with his brothers.

  
  

  
  
  
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  Developments in the India Branch

  by MaxPayne in

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  the following letter was read in the congregation today.

  it's for all the congregations in india.

  i have pasted it as it was.

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  “‘Zion’s Watch Tower’ has, we believe, JEHOVAH for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support. When He who says: ‘All the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication.” - Zion’s Watch Tower July 1879

  Well they're getting closer to "suspending publication".

  Just ten years ago it was two 32 page Watchtowers a month. Each printed in the tens of millions.

  Now it will be one study copy for how many JW's? Plus a crappy one every so often for the "ministry."
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  do not keep account of the injury?

  by Addison0998 in

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  i have a long time “friend” around my age, she and her husband are big sheeple who have been raised to practically worship elders and view their as police angels.

  anyways, they recently arranged to have a meeting with the elders to ask for their blessing pretty much to go to a wedding of a relative of hers who is not in the best standing, (she just recently got baptized and her husband was recently reinstated) anyways, the elders told them of course that it was their choice, but warned them that every time they ask for the elders advice on something, it is recorded whether they heeded the advice or not and looked at for things such as ske school, which is a goal they have to do together.

  and of course they advised them not to go so they didn’t, especially since they want to go to the ske school, and i guess they only accept people who let people have full control of their lives.

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  Addison - as an ex elder I believe that this was local speak for "we can't force you but you'd be wise to".

  I remember a fuss made about a wedding where a pair of pioneers were intending to go and another pioneer made such a fuss that a conversation with elders was had and the phrase "you can go but you might have your privileges reviewed if it stumbles others" was used. (Elders on a power trip)

  Other times - usually when Daddy power elder WANTS to go himself or his kid wants to go then nothing is done.