I'd rather watch that than listen to the crusty old secretary while he wags his finger at us and gives us a lecture from the Kingdumb Misery. But I guess we'll get the cartoon and the lecture on Thursday ...
Posts by freddo
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42Convention Cartoon
by freemindfade inso last night they played the convention cartoon.
there were a few laughs from the audience, overall though people seemed a little taken aback and tight lipped.
like no one gushed about it afterwards, no applause, just like it was nothing new at all.
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Separated from a loveless Marriage
by PLAYGROUND ini don't know where to start.
i got married a year and half ago.
some months into the marriage things where discovered.
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freddo
PLAYGROUND, Playground, playground...
I was an elder for twenty years. I have been married for twenty five years. I know how it works. Here is my advice for what it is worth.
Do not go back to this man. Listen. I said do not go back to this man. Really listen. Do not go back to this man.
Escape - and never go back to this man. Did you hear me? Leave the area. Do not go to the elders - move congregations. Get a cheap room to live in, get a job. Shut the door in the evening, sit in your comfy chair watch the TV and enjoy the peace. Bored? Lonely? Get another job. Volunteer. Make new friends.
Get support here. We are all crazy from the jw religion but most of us mean well and want to help.
Did I say leave this man and don't go back? If I didn't then I'm telling you to leave this man and don't go back.
Oh and any hassle go to the police. Forget this don't bring reproach rubbish, just do it. Each and every time.
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UK Branch visit 2015
by tamagotchi inanyone know anything about it?
apparently it's going to be broadcast live nationally to all the congregations this saturday
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freddo
Another yawnfest/bilefest for those that are awake but attending (ABA).
My guess it'll be:-
Song - Listen obey and be depressed
J. Larson - The F&DS are wunnerful and give us a rich spiritual banquet. Now give us all your dough for upstate New York holiday complex and pedo protection... err Worldwide Work.
S Hardy - look how I can shine doing the watchtower and save my skin til I end up in the infirmiary cuz I sure ain't getting through to paradise without a resurrection.
P. Gillies - Branch report - look at all the literature we're printing for the Africans! Give us all your money so we can send them some more. It's not for the new holiday home in Essex, nosirree! Now who can I give the axe to to save some money and save my skin. Listen, payup and be blessed!
M. Sanderson - The GB love you - now don't you go listening to them there naysayers at bitter twisted 'postate central..
Concluding prayer:
Dear Jehovah, please keep the brothers and sisters in the organizational ark. Help them not to stray into the nets of the birdcatcher. We know that apostates are against us but they cannot prevail if we keep close to the organization.
Your heavenly chariot moves at a fantastic pace and we must keep up! Not doubting at all and we ask your blessing on all the bethelites kicked to the kerb err ... volunteering for missionary positions .... errr missionary work because we know they will keep warm and well fed.
Help us build up treasures in heaven, not more kingdom halls and branch offices because we know your son had nowhere to lay his head ... hang on a minute who put that in the script ... I mean even the small amount given by the widow means much to you so how much more would extra dollars mean if we put those in? What's that? Pounds - yes pounds here in the UK - they're bigger than dollars, give us pounds. Yes let us pour out our genuine nard meaning all our worldly resources on the feet of the governing body to help the worldwidework.
We know you support our organization with your heavenly resources and ask that we do too with our earthly ones.
In the name of your son, our lord, my big brother...
Ah-men!
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4 New BOEs just Arrived!
by Atlantis in4 boes just arrived and we appreciate our informants assistance... click the links below and then click the green download button.. .. 2015 april 6, boe (re: electronic convention program and convention releases).
.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gqk7qat.
.. .. .. 2015 april 21, boe (re: programme for special meeting with headquarters representatives).
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freddo
Is that an "overlapping" two years - in which case it needs to be three and a half or even four years.
Love Billy's soliloquy!
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Another "reaching out" guilt trip this weekend, apparently.
by OneEyedJoe ini just got word that the brothers of my congregation is "encouraged to attend a special meeting" this saturday.
i was told to bring the od book, and the 9/15/14 and 4/15/15 study wts.
judging by the articles in those, it's going to be another guilt trip to get all us dead-beat kids in our 20s and 30s to "reach out" to be jr. cult leaders.
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freddo
Yep , attended one of those about three years after resigning as an elder - along with two other "deleted" elders an aging MS and about six others that either can't hold down a job, can't get out of bed, or are depressed. Or clever.
Basically it was you need to be averaging 8 to 10 hours minimum, be early for all the meetings and be "visible" in ministry.
This is why my report was always put in at 5 to 7 hours - just enough to be allowed (gasp) to run a microphone - better than sitting still through an hour and a half of drone and moan - but not enough to read the watchtower.
Really they had a hierarchy.
Anyone could clean the hall (of course) even on restrictions.
Then:
Irregular up to 4 hours nothing/zippo/nada - oh you could bring some oldie in your car to the hall especially if they stank of urine.
5/6 hours - run a microphone, be an assistant to an assistant on the hall dept
7 hours - read at the cong book err bible study - be an assistant on a department or (if you had enough fingers that worked) operate the sound equipment desk
8 hours - read the watchtower! Yay! Stand in as an exemplary brother for an MS department because they never had enough. Often an ex elder who toed the line.
9/10 hours - be considered for MS if you could get to all the meetings early and if you were visibly supporting your group in first call while the elder left after fifteen minutes to do calls.
I don't know about now but they are pretty desperate - I'm sure some of the guys used are hardly regular.
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What to cook for the CO?
by fulano inthe funniest i have seen since ages..... http://www.forevereating.com.
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freddo
CO Visit Form Page 2 of 18.
Dietary Requirements.
Circuit Overseer - Lactose intolerant, allergic to cheap cuts of meat, nuts eggs gluten milk soya and is a vegatarian.
CO wife - all the above, vegan and can't have anything that will react with her antidepressants.
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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...
by Stumpy ini've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
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@Stumpy
Please be careful - I was assigned a baptism talk at a circuit assembly when I knew it wasn't the truth - to my shame I gave it yet still didn't resign as an elder for another year or so citing (lying basically - or is that theocratic warfare?) health problems.
But that was twelve years ago before I ever posted on here.
You may want to shout from the rooftops, please don't. If you feel the need to do so then let at least a year pass by and see if you still feel the same way.
Freddo
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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!
by Viva la Vida ini'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .
opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.
the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.
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freddo
DNCall
I have no legal background, but what you say makes sense.
At this point in time (I don't what appeals are available still to WT) it appears that a precedent has been set which means that all the cases still rolling down the pike have a precedent to refer to and will be so much easier to take to court and win.
Forgetting that this is against WTB&TS - frankly, damages in the order of tens of millions does seem disproportional to my inexperienced eye but that does not seem to be the point. If every individual who has a valid case against the WT that is proved gets about a million bucks plus costs from the WT each time and builds on the precedent set then that is a pretty fair result IMHO.
Hats off to Candace Conti!
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Hold Me, Thrill Me
by Hold Me-Thrill Me ini'm going to be honest and from the heart when i say that for 40 years in the jw religion i was very happy in my ignorance!
man, what a trip it was.
i loved every minute of it but then i was absent the bad in my religion.
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freddo
> O.P. Sometimes we who have mentally left throw the baby out with the bathwater. I can understand you being thrilled by Jesus' teachings - it's when you add some of the apostles (e.g.) Paul's teachings - and especially when you overlay them with the Governing Body's teachings that the thrill deadens.
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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...
by Stumpy ini've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
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>Stumpy
Hi there! Welcome. Not easy being an elder once you wake up. Been there. Any family/extended family in? Are you looking to "walk away" without DF/DA or wake up as many as you can?
I saw the broadcast containing the bit about the building leak - like the dancing trolley cart one it shows a level of crazy ...