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  What do we have to say to ourselves about this video...we are being exposed..

  by jdub1991 in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be

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  freddo

  Hello jdub1991. You will find that many on this site "say it how it is" - they have been personally hurt by "our" policies, "our" circuit overseers and "our" elders.

  We are all disturbed by the way "our" religion's (or ex-religion's) human leaders seem to care only about their preservation of image and their being in control above all else.

  If you stay and are not frightened away by sharp retorts and angry hurt people you will find many gems here to help you gain clarity of thought.

  It's a tough time for genuine people who are trapped in a mindset.

  To the rest of us: Please be mindful of the trepidation in which some venture onto this site. We want them to stay and be enlightened, not sent further down the rabbit hole.
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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

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  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  And for every newbie I guess there will be several new lurkers ... how many I do not know.
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  The "Ice Cream Video" - is it real?

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  the "don't buy ice cream give us the money video" that is the subject of other threads.. i am not very good with computer stuff - would someone tell me where it is to be found on jworg please?

  i can't find it.. thanks..

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  @ToesUp - Found it - thanks.

  I'm glad it's real. More "shooting themselves in the foot!"

  
  

  When you click on it it asks if you've been to the convention yet. If you click "no" you don't get to see anything. So you click "yes" and you do!

  Will I go to hell for watching this before my assigned convention next month?
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  The "Ice Cream Video" - is it real?

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the "don't buy ice cream give us the money video" that is the subject of other threads.. i am not very good with computer stuff - would someone tell me where it is to be found on jworg please?

  i can't find it.. thanks..

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  freddo

  The "don't buy ice cream give us the money video" that is the subject of other threads.

  I am not very good with computer stuff - would someone tell me where it is to be found on jworg please? I can't find it.

  Thanks.
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  Tight Pants "For Your Enjoyment"

  by cappytan in

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  inappropriate.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km1fkow6zw8.

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  freddo

  Brilliant!
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  Planning for the future: Funerals

  by enigma1863 in

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  2. beliefs

  my dad is now the only jw in my family.

  i am technically inactive.

  i am concerned about when he dies.

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  freddo

  If your father expresses what he wants for his service then that is what he should get. I guess his estate is paying for it? If not and you are in charge of arranging it you don't have to choose a die hard elder to take it - at least not in the UK. (Unless you want a Kingdom hall service and lots of jw's don't over here they just have a talk in the state owned crematoriums and anyone can give that at the next of kin's instructions.) By next of kin I mean whoever has authority over the dead person's estate and who releases the funds. He who pays the piper calls the tune as the saying goes.

  I've known families that were jw's choose a friend of the deceased - sometimes ex elders or reasonable speakers who have never "reached out" and who will be prepared to tear up the "wonderful" jw outline and tell everyone about the dead person's good points.

  I did one once after I resigned as an elder - just put in a scripture about the dead persons hope (resurrection of the righteous) and how we could benefit from copying her good points (kind, loved family, looked after grandchildren) and gave her history in what I hoped was a light and kind way. The service was about half hour with a kingdom song chosen by her family and a prayer by her jw nephew but at least 80% of it was about her.

  But I asked what the two sons wanted and they just told me loads of anecdotes and stuff which I related. Seemed ok with dubs and non-dubs and most importantly family.

  
  

  
  
  
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  Help? :(

  by BlackWolf in

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  i apologize for how rantish this is but please hear me out.

  anyways i'm a 15 year old girl and i've never really wanted to be a jw.

  its just never been something thats made me feel happy or loved.

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  Have a plan. Tell your parents you want to go to college so you can learn to support yourself financially. Make friends there but be careful. But don't do unwise things like drugs and alcohol and sleeping around - be a useful member of society.

  I bet your eating disorder is largely down to your stress from being torn between two paths. The one that is expected of you and the one that you want to follow.

  Do you have siblings?
  
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  New WT video: Like taking money from a baby!

  by WingCommander in

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  just when you thought may's jw dot org video featuring wide-eyed cult lunatic gb lett guilting the masses into giving every last dime they have couldn't be topped, your children will now be fed a guilt-inducing cartoon in which they are guilted into giving every last cent they have to the wt cult.

  the wt entitles this one, "give us your money!

  even your children are to be shaken down!

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  Where would I find that on the jw website please?
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  New WT video: Like taking money from a baby!

  by WingCommander in

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  just when you thought may's jw dot org video featuring wide-eyed cult lunatic gb lett guilting the masses into giving every last dime they have couldn't be topped, your children will now be fed a guilt-inducing cartoon in which they are guilted into giving every last cent they have to the wt cult.

  the wt entitles this one, "give us your money!

  even your children are to be shaken down!

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  Bloody Hell!
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  What triggered your doubts / awakening?

  by Tornintwo in

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  i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

  for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

  ...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

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  freddo

  It just built up over the years.

  I was a young teen in 1975 - that didn't do it. I got baptised in '76 go figure! After all "the generation" might go 70 or 80 years from 1914!

  The generation change in 1995 - nope but looking back that was a biggie.

  The Revelation Book - how many times did we study that pile of crap? And then paste in more crap? I never could get how Cedar Point trumpeting was foretold in scripture!

  A falling out with a CO and my resignation as an elder in 2004 was a help and for ten years its grown into "staying in to keep peace with family". But I have been mentally free for at least five years. That is a good place to be - I'm comfortable knowing that if I'm lucky I'll grow old and die.

  I'm just like a lazy dog led on a nail - it's uncomfortable but not as uncomfortable as it would be if I cut all ties.

  I'm too cowardly to leave yet and I hate myself for it.

  Don't copy me.