Posts by freddo

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Yes!!! We will see Jackson's face!

by OrphanCrow in

i emailed mr. stewart about jackson's testimony, asking if the video link would be visible to the public.. this was his prompt reply:.

thank you dianne for your interest.

the it people tell me that mr jackson will be on the screen for all to see and hear.regardsangus stewart.

freddo

@Marvin

You mean they aren't putting it up live on jw.org and doing a WT study about it?

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What are JWs saying about the Royal Commission?

by LexIsFree in

i am wondering if there are any pro-jw blogs/sites that any of you visit and whether or not jws are aware of what is going on in australia.

also, what is there reaction to it?

(i may already know the answer to that last question.

freddo

@Vidqun

Well they don't get much higher up than a branch coordinator, a branch head of legal and the one that testifies tomorrow...

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Would this be any use to the Royal Commission?

by freddo in

i believe this shows how the org.

doesn't want to be held accountable to secular legal authorities.. in the 1991 green elders handbook (used between 1991 and 2010) there is a blank page (page 143) and at one elders school we were instructed to write six expressions that "should not be used on s77 + s79 forms (df and da forms)".. 1) anything alluding to or naming one of the society's legal advisers.. 2) any mention of the legal desk.. 3) any comments referring to direction from the society.. 4) any comments mentioning anyone other than the committee itself as a possible influence in the decision reached.. 5) any comment that might suggest someone with a critical eye that the committee did not reach its decision on its own but instead somehow yielded to the influence of an outside party.. 6) any comments indicating the elders mishandled the case or committed any error in the investigation or the judicial committee process.. i have in my possession two elders handbooks with these exact words written in each in different handwriting.

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freddo

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Would this be any use to the Royal Commission?

by freddo in

i believe this shows how the org.

doesn't want to be held accountable to secular legal authorities.. in the 1991 green elders handbook (used between 1991 and 2010) there is a blank page (page 143) and at one elders school we were instructed to write six expressions that "should not be used on s77 + s79 forms (df and da forms)".. 1) anything alluding to or naming one of the society's legal advisers.. 2) any mention of the legal desk.. 3) any comments referring to direction from the society.. 4) any comments mentioning anyone other than the committee itself as a possible influence in the decision reached.. 5) any comment that might suggest someone with a critical eye that the committee did not reach its decision on its own but instead somehow yielded to the influence of an outside party.. 6) any comments indicating the elders mishandled the case or committed any error in the investigation or the judicial committee process.. i have in my possession two elders handbooks with these exact words written in each in different handwriting.

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freddo

I believe this shows how the org. doesn't want to be held accountable to secular legal authorities.

In the 1991 Green Elders Handbook (used between 1991 and 2010) there is a blank page (page 143) and at one elders school we were instructed to write six expressions that "should not be used on S77 + S79 forms (DF and DA forms)".

1) Anything alluding to or naming one of the Society's legal advisers.

2) Any mention of the legal desk.

3) Any comments referring to direction from the Society.

4) Any comments mentioning anyone other than the committee itself as a possible influence in the decision reached.

5) Any comment that might suggest someone with a critical eye that the committee did not reach its decision on its own but instead somehow yielded to the influence of an outside party.

6) Any comments indicating the elders mishandled the case or committed any error in the investigation or the judicial committee process.

I have in my possession two elders handbooks with these exact words written in each in different handwriting.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Can't Remember (video)

by mulder_scully in

hi friends!.

i normally post over on /r/exjw but i've been reading more and more over here on this forum and found it incredibly supportive and informative.

i hope to participate in this community and become an active member.

freddo

Yep I remember that Splash.

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Governing Body missing their big chance

by under the radar in

it seems to me that the governing body is missing an excellent opportunity to demonstrate that they are indeed the faithful and discreet slavetm.

even if, as they claim, they collectively constitute the slavetm only when meeting together to consider spiritual matters, surely any one of their number could expect to be guided by holy spirittm when testifying before the australian royal commission on such an important matter.. in fact, they should widely publicize the hearing and encourage all jw's to watch it live.

this would show they have nothing to fear and really believe all the (hot steaming piles of) spiritual food they've been spewing.. after all, their own translation of the bible says, at matthew 10:18-20, "18 and you will be brought before governors and kings+ for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.+ 19 however, when they hand you over, do not become anxious about how or what you are to speak, for what you are to speak will be given you in that hour;+ 20 for the ones speaking are not just you, but it is the spirit of your father that speaks by you.".

freddo

But if he does what you suggest undertheradar it will cost millions of dollars in compensation to victims.

You know Jehovah needs millions of dollars to pay his angels to hold back the four winds of the earth so Warwick can be built.

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Preparing for Friday's Feeding Frenzy

by Esse quam videri in

many hundreds and perhaps thousands of people, worldwide, are eagerly waiting for the questioning of geoffrey jackson at the australian royal commission on institutional response to child abuse.

this is the day that many have hungered for.

finally, a member of the governing body being questioned and compelled to make full disclosure, to the best of his knowledge, the very best of his knowledge.

freddo

Wouldn't it be fantastic if this was Geoffrey Jackson's Ray Franz moment? Now that is something worth praying for.

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Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update

by umbertoecho in

hello people.

the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.

however, it seem that it will be a video link.

freddo

But wasn't Monty Baker's (the ex jw) testimony piped in by video? I got the impression "the court" could see him but we couldn't?

I do hope I'm wrong.

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Can JWs be police in Australia?

by Larrikin in

hi everyone, i'm new here, i've been following the rc reports, and i was hoping you could help, my question is are jw allowed to be police, i heard the jws saying in one report with enthusiasm that they had jw in the policeforce.

and would there be any conflict from the force with any of their teaching, that would be contrary to duties..

freddo

Absolutely, definitely allowed in the UK if (as most do not) not carrying a gun. Certainly not encouraged. I have definite knowledge of an elder serving as a copper.

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The typical JW zombie mindset

by SecretSlaveClass in

i posted this on a pro-jw site:.

this is the official policy sanctioned by the governing body.

it's not about indivuals being molesters/deviants.

freddo

But .... "Anna Kotas" has read it (a mere sister I presume - sarcasm - has read it. She can't spiral bind the elders book and yet she has access to this much more "highly confidential" document.)

Also your post is "allowed" on a pro-jw site.

These are good things. They are the thin edge of the wedge.