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  Fisticuffs Erupts Between Mormons and JWs at Montreal Airport... WTF?

  by Room 215 in

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  2. scandals

  apologies if someone else has posted this before: .

  http://vaticanenquirer.com/canadas-mormons-and-jehovahs-witnesses-brawl-trying-to-get-to-refugees-first/.

  sorry, meant to say "fighting erupts" ... my bad.

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  freddo

  Vatican Enquirer - look under the religion section and see a photoshop of Pope Francis with a shovel and black sack cleaning up a dead angel that flew into the Sistine chapel window!

  "It seems to happen every week"

  "at time of going to press the Bishop of Rome was scraping a dead angel off the popemobile's windscreen"

  "usually they die instantly by breaking their neck when they hit the stained glass window but if they are twitching a bit I find it best to put them out of their misery with a shovel."

  Brilliant.
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  BOE 2016-01-13 Britain Branch Visit & 2016-01-18 Correct Use of jw.org Inboxes

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  2016-01-13 re: visit of headquarters representatives .

  as part of their visit, a special three-hour programme will be broadcast to all congregationsin britain, ireland and the falkland islands.

  the programme will be streamed from bethel, and will be available from saturday afternoon, april 30, at 1:00 p.m.. 2016-01-18 re:correct use of jw.org inboxes.

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  Part of a Bank Holiday weekend in the UK. Book your holidays now!

  Thanks for this info. I love dropping knowledge like this into conversations and then "it comes true". If I then am asked how I know I just say "bethel contacts". And in a way it's true!
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  Any former elders brains I could pick?

  by BarelyThere in

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  2. friends

  i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

  it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

  i was dfed back in september for adultery.

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  The fact your mother is willing to go under the radar and associate is a huge bonus. Approximately how old are you? Is the man you had a relationship with around or in touch?

  Not being nosy just trying to gauge the situation. Don't answer if you'd rather not.
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  Living Through the Brief Liberalization of Jehovah's Witnesses, Never Recovering

  by TMS in

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  2. friends

  with the book crisis of conscience detailing the turbulence at bethel during the early to mid 70's, the transformation from autocratic rule to governance by committee or a body of men, many of us can speak to how that felt among the rank and file of the local congregations during those years.

  we learned new concepts based in large part to research done for the aid to bible understanding volume, then we were asked or coerced into unlearning those principles, going back to the old ways.

  some of us never readjusted, finding ourselves very different from our more hardline compadres.. the inertia for the changes that eventually were initiated in the congregations came from the discovery that the greek words episkopos and presbyteros were used biblically to refer to all qualified men in a congregation, not just one.

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  I can vouch for TMS's feel of the congregations in the mid-late 70's.

  Here in the UK one of the elders in my hall who is in his 70's now actually gave a circuit assembly talk as a young up an coming elder sporting a beard. Unfortunately he is still deep, deep in but has no beard largely I suspect because he likes his "high profile" and assembly items.

  It was great - we late teenagers wore loud check sports jackets, wide ties, wide-collared, coloured shirts, flared trousers, big clumpy shoes and hair over our ears! And there was that article about women wearing "pant-suits" too. Though no-one did.

  And of course the "generation that saw 1914" doctrine ruled as king.
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  5th Columb : We need a signal to identify each other

  by Deltawave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been thinking, it is a lonely place in the real world knowing ttatt but if we have a phrase we can unite, support and help each other.

  the question we will ask is:.

  what's your favorite bible verse?

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  Luke 21 v 8, a beard and tight pants. But not metrosexual.
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  The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

  by redpilltwice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

  thank you all for the encouraging replies.

  one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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  @broke the chains

  Something doesn't add up. At the time I posted this you had posted twice. Once three months ago and once about an hour ago. As far as I can tell the description of yourself varies greatly between these two posts.

  This last post of yours intrigued me so much I thought I would look at your post history to read more.

  Care to explain? Or am I overlooking something obvious?
  
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  A lot of "forbidden" talk is going on among witnesses

  by nevaagain in

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  2. friends

  me and my wife are still "in".

  we had the "talk" a couple of times, but shet is not ready to leave yet.

  while a couple of years ago she started crying on the thought that i am an "apostate" and even gave me an ultimatum until she would rat me out to the elders (never happened), now i sense that she might is a little bit more open to the the thought to leave one day .... anyway, all out friends and family are still in the truth and whenever we are meeting with other witnesses topic #1 is always the recent changes to the meetings / conventions (reduced to one day) which always lead to the changes to the magazines and the recent lay offs of the special pioneers and bethelites.

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  I have had "very interesting conversations" in the last two months with two elders I used to serve with and one who is a relative in a different circuit. They are all in their 60's - about ten years older than me.

  Elder 1. "We'll probably die before Armageddon" was one comment I got in response to my ""I don't know if I can follow this "overlapping generation" stuff ... ""

  Elder 2. "Strange that they need all this money when there is all that property to sell off in Brooklyn and London and they've (he said "they" not "we") stopped building."

  Elder 3. "My son got out of Bethel just before this cull (he actually said cull) began; he's so glad he did. He told me he was talking to one of his mates up there (London) who said that the atmosphere was awful."

  I tell you - if you know one of them well enough to put a drink in their hands - they don't stop blabbing ...

  In vino veritas!
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  Authoritarian vs Open To Experience

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  follow the smell of the "service department".

  that's where the power rests in the watchtower.. do a little research on wikipedia about the psychological traits.

  opennes and conscientiousness (big five personality traits).

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  Jackson - if Jackson believes he is accountable to the almighty, how does he sleep at night after that ARC debacle?

  Either he must believe that "following orders" (of the GB as a whole) gets him off the hook with Jah or he doesn't believe at all and is in it to retain his position and authority.
  
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  CO's never say thank you for the green handshakes

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ever noticed how co's and ex-do's never say thank you for the hard earned money they get from the friends?

  they truly believe they are entitled to live an easy life at the expense of others.

  this makes my blood boil!

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  Suavojr - there are many irritating, mind-blowing and downright cowardly things CO's have done over the decades. Occasionally they may not thank someone who has given them money.

  Usually - probably mostly - they do.

  Sweeping statements and over generalisations do not help.
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  The book of Ruth... destroys the bible

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  lets pretend two things:.

  1. god (yhwh) exists.

  2. the bible is his word.. now we follow genesis to judges ok... judges resets at chaper 17-21 but for the purposes od this posts lets ignore that.... ruth we are told lives in the time of the judges... ok no problem/ until the end.

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  Look folks Ruth to David is easy! Overlapping generations of course.