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  How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

  by dogon in

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  i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

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  freddo

  @Fisherman

  Were you a JW in 1975? How old were you in 1975? Approximately ...
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  Is there Scriptural Evidence to a Resurrection during the 1,000 year Reign?

  by Listener in

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  this question was addressed on the jw advisor blog (a defending watchtower website), july 24,2016 .

  the answer is interesting because it is more in accord with what the bible fortells but it is not in accord with what the watchtower is currently teaching and has been for decades.

  it has been suggested on this forum that the site has been sanctioned by the watchtower or written by writers at hq.this is the current view of the watchtower and is under 'bible teachings' on jw org.

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  Can anyone else see protostar's posts? How would I do that to report back to you?
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  RIP Leonard Cohen the World is a little more Grey

  by Slidin Fast in

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  he was a unique voice, i loved him.

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  maybe leonard bowed out because donald got in.

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  freddo

  Yup, 2016 has not been good for great musical talent passing away.

  But watch out for interminable playing of "Hallelujah" on the radio for the next couple of weeks. I'll enjoy it for the first couple of times then it will grate.
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  Is this another Trump backflip?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  we've seen one backflip.

  crooked hillary became a hard-working woman who deserves the nations praise (in his victory speech);.

  now according to a uk newspaper:.

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  freddo

  I hope it bodes better for the USA. (and the rest of the world because when you guys sneeze we catch a cold)

  The more power Hitler got the more disastrous his dictatorship became. In power January 1933. All check on his power gone when Paul von Hindenburg died in summer 1934. Ramping up his war rhetoric and persecution of the Jews and minorities 1935 - 1938. Then WW2.

  But as soon as Trump is voted in he moderates his more extreme rhetoric. Good. At least he is listening.

  I hope.
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  How to route out an apostate... according too this site.

  by Thisismein1972 in

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  https://jwadvisor.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/leakinginfo.html.

  jehovah's witness advisor.

  leakinginfo: what can be done to find out who is leaking documents?.

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  freddo

  I can't believe that "JW Advisor" is not awake to some degree. And nuts to some degree.
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  My Thanksgiving Tradition As One of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by TMS in

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  the jw prohibition of celebrating holidays includes the american celebration of thanksgiving, a sort of innocuous harvest festival, where thanks is given for the year's blessings.

  a typical family eats a large meal together, including turkey and all the trimmings.

  in recent decades, nfl football, always involving the dallas cowboys and detroit lions, has become part of the routine, as well as drinking beer.. every year or so, the "awake!

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  freddo

  Yup! UK here so not Thanksgiving but Xmas/New Year time.

  When myself as an elder (then) and two other male relatives as elders would descend upon the great JW Matriarch (My Aunt Doris) with our pioneer wives and our families often including a bethelite or two between Xmas and New Year to have what we jokingly called the "Not Xmas/Not New Year Party" at Auntie's/Mum's/Gran's house.

  No tree or paper hats of course but charades and games and TV and booze and good food was had by all.
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  JWs Excited Trump Won

  by LaurenM in

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  i am incredibly disturbed.

  many of the jws i'm still friends with on facebook are incredibly excited that trump won the american presidential race, posting, "yay!

  i'm so happy!

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  freddo

  Just type "Luke 21 v 8" as a reply. Like this:

  Luke 21 v 8
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  Is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?

  by Conias in

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  is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?.

  in the event that one of the spouses is being psychologically mistreated in a very serious manner where his health is severely damaged and even his own life is in danger.

  is there a biblical basis for jehovah's witnesses for separation or divorce?.

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  freddo

  Welcome Conias.

  Yes there is.

  Separation. (Legal non scriptural divorce may be taken too)

  Wilful non-support (financially)

  Extreme physical abuse

  Absolute endangerment of one's spirituality.

  It is up to the individual to decide if his/her situation fits and take action. They will likely get pressure from busy bodies/including elders.

  But it is up to them.

  The problem is those that are abused by a dominant spouse find it difficult to think straight and get support to make a stand.
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  November broadcast makes thier strategy clear.

  by Crazyguy in

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  thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.

  this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.

  there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.

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  @ Blondie

  OK ... Go to JWbroadcasting. Loesch introduces the November one with some drone helper.

  At about 19.00 a clip is introduced. At about 20.30 you see a Portuguese? Kingdom Hall and the mother narrating says "Our son Levi was no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" (meaning DF'd or DA'd) and around this point she and hubby hold hands as Elder 1 steps aside from the podium and Elder 2 announces "no longer a jw" in the background language (Portuguese?).

  At about 24.00 Gabrielle tells us it's been 5 years now but he has "not returned to Jehovah". So of course she pioneers regularly.
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  November broadcast makes thier strategy clear.

  by Crazyguy in

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  thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.

  this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.

  there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.

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  freddo

  @Crazyguy

  You missed a bit I think. Watch the clip again. There is an announcement that he (the son) is no longer a jw. That's the modern hip way of saying DFD or DA'D in jw land.