Posts by freddo

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13th Dec 2017

by zeb in

i have a 'financial advisor' email tell of massive changes coming to us (and thereby world currencies) on the above date.. does 13-dec 2017 mean anything to anyone.?.

he is talking about the removal of cash etc now if this is half way correct where does it leave the money machine of the wt?.

positive responses welcome..

freddo

Useful response ...?

I reckon it's a phishing email and the first part of a scam.

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Normal things you missed out on as a kid (besides holidays)

by Are you serious in

since me and my siblings had to go to service every saturday, and i mean every saturday, i missed out on something so normal as watching good ole saturday morning cartoons from the 70's and 80's.

i remember wishing i could stay home just one saturday so i could watch cartoons.

but noooo we had to go save lives!

freddo

I was virtually a born-in. Not quite but almost. One parent became a jw when I was 1 year old and the other when I was 11 years old.

The highlights of my youth were the extremely rare non-jw things my parents allowed me to do. School camping trips (each one week long) at ages 10 and 11 and 14.

Even then there was no Xmas or birthdays and I remember vividly dreading whether I might be asked to salute a flag. Here's why.

In England no one outside the armed forces or at remembrance day salutes in the presence of the national flag.

But ... I was brought up on a diet of Watchtowers screaming that JW kids should not be forced to salute the American flag and so when I went to school camp we used a Scouts' (also forbidden for jw's to join because of its links with the Church of England) camp site on the south coast of England. Right in the middle was the Union Flag on a pole.

So come evening when 100 normal kids get their hot chocolate and sit round the fire and the flag is "struck down for the evening" I am dreading being the only one not standing and saluting.

Except of course, being laconic Brits the flag was dropped with no ceremony whatsoever and put away to be raised the next morning, again with no ceremony whatsoever.

Phew! Another jw test passed with flying colours! (Just not flying colours being saluted)

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This week's "Give Us Your Money" meeting item.

by freddo in

jw
friends

if you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?

just the video or some commentary too?.

i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".

freddo

That 1973 Awake article is also noteworthy for a basic error ...

"Admission is now being charged visitors to London’s thirteenth-century Salisbury Cathedral."

Salisbury Cathedral is in the City of Salisbury - a small city in it's own right - and which is 90 miles south west of London. It certainly cannot be described as London's cathedral.

Perhaps they meant England's, not London's ...

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Listening to the meetings from the perspective of a "newly interested" person?

by stuckinarut2 in

just wondering how many others (when you were still in the org) would try and listen to the meeting programmes from the perspective of a newly interested person visiting for the first time?.

i know that i did this, and most times i did, i found it disturbing!

it was not just the "in-house" language and terminology that was odd, but also the actual doctrines, and method of 'teaching' that was odd!.

freddo

You might ask why they are newly interested?

Nowadays "round my way" it's generally because they are vulnerable, lonely and miserable at best - or cuckoo, vulnerable, lonely and miserable at worst.

What appeals to these people is the interest shown in them, along with the "certainty" and the "love" from outwardly normal people.

So they sit through crap and soak it up. Some see through it, some leave and some surface at every crisis only to disappear again later.

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This week's "Give Us Your Money" meeting item.

by freddo in

jw
friends

if you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?

just the video or some commentary too?.

i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".

freddo

K99: Firstly the premise of the video was that there a new way of donating via the website and this had raised some questions.

Hilarious and good final point in your post - what questions could it possibly raise?

Ageing Dub "Hmmm. These people told me and my generation I could live forever without dying. Now I'm gonna die and they want my estate so they can live in comfort and tell the next overlapping generation they won't die either?"

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Jehovah’s Witnesses and “the Friends”

by minimus in

jw
friends

i never understood why many jehovah’s witnesses will say “the friends”.

it seems so mormon like..

freddo

Not a UK thing.

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This week's "Give Us Your Money" meeting item.

by freddo in

jw
friends

if you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?

just the video or some commentary too?.

i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".

freddo

Love the Freddo references!

NBD said: "Wow I wish I was in your congregation."

To be totally accurate - the elder I quoted was in another cong. that shares the hall where they had the same item - and our conversation was prompted by me asking him why we kept on having all these money items.

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This week's "Give Us Your Money" meeting item.

by freddo in

jw
friends

if you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?

just the video or some commentary too?.

i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".

freddo

If you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled? Just the video or some commentary too?

I have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits". (He didn't say "child abuse" but I'm sure that is what he meant)

Yet another said "I haven't donated for months and I wont start now!"

Of course everyone else claps and nods their heads, but this constant money talk is causing a few ripples.

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One Question to ask any JW that will blow their end times out of the water

by maccauk in

ask any jw this one question.

are there any apostles from the 1st century still walking the earth alive today ?.

100% will say there are no apostles from the 1st century alive today.

freddo

Another dub explanation was that James, John and Peter "saw Jesus in all his glory" at the transfiguration which was "representative" of his return.

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Captain Obvious: A Success Story

by Captain Obvious in

january 2012, at the age of 24 i “woke up” to the truth about the truth.

march 2012, i joined this esteemed message board and was welcomed.

this forum was such a help.

freddo

Congratulations Capt. Obvious.

Please keep posting because it is great to know the possibilities even if our loved ones are not where your wife is yet.