Bumped this thread! Because it's brilliant.
Thanks to Cofty.
Posts by freddo
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148Jehovah's Witnesses View of Jesus Compared to the Early Church
by cofty inthe following is an extract from something i wrote 16 years ago soon after leaving the watchtower.
i am posting it because it may help honest jws consider how far their beliefs are at odds with new testament christians.
if they have "the truth" then their attitude to jesus ought to reflect that of the apostles.
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Meeting Days Felt Different?
by pale.emperor ini dont know if it was the same for you, but for me when i was a jw meeting days seemed to have a black cloud hanging over them.
on thursdays i knew i would be going to the meeting that evening.
that i would be getting into my meeting clothes at 6:30pm, leaving the house at 6:55pm and be sat in the kingdom hall from 7:15pm-9pm, then milling around for about half an hour before finally getting home for 10pm.
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freddo
When you had a physical job - like a trade or cleaning. And you were physically tired mid week and especially on a warm day when you'd have to shower, shave and put on a bloody tie - even for the group if it was 70f/21c degrees plus outside.
And it was the fucking Revelation book again and you were the group overseer and had to stick in the "new light" changes and you dragged your poor little kids along even though they had school the next day and you KNEW the seven trumpets of Revelation were NOTHING to do with CEDAR FUCKING POINT OHIO CONVENTIONS!
What a shitty, foolish, idiotic, indoctrinated parent I was ...
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Tight pants dilemma solved
by rebel8 inthe principles that we glean from god’s word should move us to avoid wearing clothing that is tight-fitting, revealing, or sexually provocative.
that would rule out wearing clothing that exposes or accentuates private parts of our anatomy.
nobody should feel uncomfortable or forced to look the other way when seeing how we are dressed.
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freddo
stuck said ... "And of course, back when baggy trousers were in fashion, we as young brothers were told off for "following the trends and fashions of the world"
So, a JW just cant win!"
That's Madness! It just Suggs.
British at it's best! Especially the chorus from 1:55.
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Oregon: JW sexual abuse suspect arrested
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.kptv.com/story/37498850/sheriff-jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-suspect-arrested-in-clackamas-co. .
sheriff: jehovah's witness sexual abuse suspect arrested in clackamas co.. posted: feb 13, 2018 5:39 pm cstupdated: feb 13, 2018 6:21 pm cst.
by fox 12 staff.
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freddo
Well done Liz D! And you are most welcome here.
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GDPR: help for PIMOs
by Fay Dehr inwe urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.
what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?
(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").
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freddo
I've been rehearsing in my head how I'm gonna say no - and as always the Fall Guy's idea is really top notch. That is my favoured plan.
But ... I do like Beth Sarim's "keep forgetting" - I don't do passive-aggressive very often as I wear my heart on my sleeve and give both barrels when I really shouldn't.
But that would be so delicious - "irritating the glorious" ones ad infinitum.
Hmmm. Choices.
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Sign JW Data Protection Form Or Else!
by AverageJoe1 inin spain (and the rest of europe), the "improved" data protection laws come into force on 25th may 2018. this is a good thing and sadly america is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!.
watchtower legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!.
note these points in the instructions:.
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freddo
purrpurr - Atlantis has supplied them on his "6 BoE's - just arrived!" thread.
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Sign JW Data Protection Form Or Else!
by AverageJoe1 inin spain (and the rest of europe), the "improved" data protection laws come into force on 25th may 2018. this is a good thing and sadly america is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!.
watchtower legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!.
note these points in the instructions:.
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freddo
I think record cards are exempt (in England anyway) because some years (decades?) ago we all signed a record card saying that our hours etc. could be kept by the BoE.
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What if God never changed the languages
by pleaseresearch inwe have the account of god changing our languages and thus we all separated all over the world.. i wonder how different, maybe even peaceful if god didn't do that.. looking at the story now it seems pathetic that he needed to do this to stop men wanting to reach the heavens to take a sneaky peek at him.
we've been much further than mankind back then could have ever imagined and god isn't visible.. but yeah how different would history have been if this account never happened..
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freddo
Non dub: So why didn't Jehovah just wipe out Satan there and then in Eden?
Dub: Good question! But if he had then all the onlooking angels would have wondered if Satan was right - so Jehovah "lovingly" allows him to rule mankind with no interference to show how rubbish he is at it!
Non-dub: So is that why Jehovah didn't stop the Xmas 2004 Tsunami which killed 250,000 people? Or the stop the genocide of millions in the holocaust?
Dub: That's right!
Non-dub: But he did get involved when he confused the languages at the Tower of Babel didn't he?
Dub: Errr ....
Non-dub: Not to mention the Flood! Jah loves floods doesn't he?
Dub: "I'm not listening. La-la-la-la!"
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Even LEGO must obey jesus command to keep doing this
by Kevin McFree inhttps://youtu.be/vdtwrqvgcv0.
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freddo
What's the JW Scandinavia reference Kevin?
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Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!
by StephaneLaliberte inmost jws don't see this as a problem.
they reason that.
just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.
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freddo
Carla.
This has happened. A pioneer (what else? ) over a period of decades had a reputation for being over familiar with sisters and there were rumours of sexual activity and relationships with female bible studies - and at least one sister in the congregation. It took decades for him to get caught and dfd.
Basically the sister confessed to her adultery with him. He said it was a fantasy on her part.
She had a reproof and nothing happened to him. Years later a "bible study" came forward and he denied but got DF'd on the basis of there being more than one witness.
Don't forget you can have "two witnesses" to separate but similar events to make it count in JW land. (Usually collusion is checked out) This was not always the case.
This is how smokers are sometimes caught when they deny. And if on two separate occasions with separate victims a jw pedo is caught he can be done judicially even with no confession.