... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from Watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths.
Posts by freddo
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77It's a shame isn't it?
by freddo in... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..
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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Angus Stewart QC on Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission (by Lara Kaput and Louise Goode)
by jwleaks inangus stewart qc, senior counsel, has had a long and distinguished legal career, beginning with his passion for justice in south africa, fighting apartheid, then later working in the truth and reconciliation commission, and more recently acting as senior counsel in the case studies on jehovah's witnesses in the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.
angus discusses, from his own personal point of view, and not representing the carc or the commissioners, what the journey was like, learning about the internal law and policy of watchtower society, how he became determined to stand for justice for all the victims and for the whole community of ex jehovah's witnesses and how he felt about the evidence being presented to him and the people presenting it.. interview by lara kaput and louise goode for jw community podcast.. https://jwcommunitypodcast.simplecast.fm/cf4d380d.
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freddo
Great to hear from you Holy Cheeses! I agree entirely with your summation - Angus - incisive, legally urbane and deadly - Justice McClellan - Iron fist in a polite, velvet glove.
Perfect antidote for the leaders of WT who were shown up for what they truly are.
The ARC finally gave me the courage to leave.
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Russia=King of the North, USA=King of the South? New info coming in from Annual Meeting 2018
by Jules Saturn init was announced in this year’s annual meeting that they believe that the king of the north is russia and the king of the south is us/britain.
for me this is the first time hearing from the society actually identifying the identity of the king of the north.
very interesting times!
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freddo
They were identifying the USSR as King of the North in the 1980's and Hitler's Germany until the end of WW2.
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Annual meeting topic
by asp59 inhow many think they will announce in the annual meeting they just gonna have one meeting a week?
if they dont it will be astonishing, amazing and other things..
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freddo
Polish Clarinet said - "I totally agree with you pale.emperor. Empty meetings, empty litterature, empty talks... for empty minds."
You forgot "for empty halls."
Also possibly some "simplification" to say that the year end figures for publishers etc. will be replaced by "highlights" (to mask the downturn)?
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Personalized Borg Number-plates!!!!
by Disassociated Lady 2 inlast week i was travelling in the u.k. when a car overtook me.
i noticed its numberplate which read 'jw 04 org'!!.
i couldnt believe it, i wonder how much the borg are charging for these?
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freddo
As Stan has done you can look up lists and buy available personalised numbers in the UK. They are all original numbers issued by the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) but which you can look through and choose one that suits you.
The very early numbers are prized most because they are often short and not broken up by prefix or suffix letters.
Numbers up until the early 1960's would typically be three letters and one, two or three numbers e.g. XJW666 but then as the number of cars increased a suffix was added so it would read XJW666A, XJW666B etc. These also told you the year of registration 1963 being "A", 1964 being "B" etc.
In 1983 the letters of the alphabet were use up and so they became prefixes and the numbers and letters were swapped. So now it would be A666XJW, B666XJW,
Then in 2001 the letters ran out again and so a new format came out in Sept 2001 so that Y666XJW would be March-Aug 2001 but the new format (currently in use) would make it difficult to reproduce "666" together as it is in the following format ...
2 letters 2 numbers 3 letters e.g XX-51-XJW - now the middle two represent the year (Sept 2001).
When a car is scrapped its number is available for purchase and sometimes sold if perceived as having value. This site explains and is a sales site.
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The Silver JW Bible
by caves inthe year was 2010. .
this has always infuriated me.
i was pomi ( but didnt know it).
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freddo
Actually it was 2013 when the Silver bible came out.
For me at the time it was the last high point of Watchtower - even dulling the bewilderment of the 2010 overlapping generation - but before the 2014 emotional hoopla conventions and the slow slide to GB-Rolex-TV, kingdom hall sell offs and congregation mergers.
Then the ARC - with Justice McClellan's kind but firm fist in a velvet glove and Angus Stewart's incisive professionalism which was more silver scalpel than silver sword.
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* 2018 Mergers and changes to UK congregations *
by truthseeker ini have a document containing a list of all congregations in the uk.
periodically i go through the links and check to see if they're still registered as charities and if the location of the congregation is the same.. instead of posting a large list of changes all at once, i will be adding each change that i find in a new reply to this thread.. please check back here periodically.. truthseeker.
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freddo
I've posted some of this before but an update.
BATH - the historical Roman and Georgian city in North-East Somerset has a population of about 100,000 people and up until the 1990's had three congregations meeting in two of their own Victorian halls. Bought cheap - made nice and with lots of character and valuable.
In the early 2000's one of these congregations closed and was merged with the other two.
This summer 2018 the last Bath Kingdom hall in Oldfield Park (valuable property of course had two congregations and a Chinese group/congregation).
Now they have been booted out - renamed Bath West and Bath East to the nearby towns of Radstock (including the Chinese group) and Trowbridge to share there.
This means that residents of central Bath have to drive out if their own city over ten miles instead a mile or two or even on their doorstep.
Also - to have a city as historical and as prestigious as Bath with NO kingdom hall must be a real demoraliser on the ministry.
Even the Christadelphians have a hall in Bath ... here it is!
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Is attendance down in your location too?
by StarryNight9 ini was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.
memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.
my jw family has even mentioned it.
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freddo
The congregation I know well has a territory which is compact and so no-one is further than 5 miles from the Kingdom Hall. It is quite normal that midweek out of 65/70 publishers you will have 40 at the hall and 10 dialling in from home.
I remember when we would have 90% attendance AVERAGE in the 1980's. And that is backsides on seats - not listening in.
Attendance definitely down.
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Is attendance down in your location too?
by StarryNight9 ini was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.
memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.
my jw family has even mentioned it.
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freddo
Love these comments ...
LTPF - "Seems the merging JW's came to get a quick look-see and went back to their fishing business."
Waton - "Midweek meetings are a bore except for bullies, so the rank and file senses that and voting with their slippers at home."
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Is attendance down in your location too?
by StarryNight9 ini was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.
memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.
my jw family has even mentioned it.
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freddo
Down round my way. 20 years ago high 80's on a Sunday, now 50 ish. Midweek 45 with highs of 55 and lows of 35.
Publishers gone from near 90 to mid 60's.
Two congs within 5 miles dissolved in the last five years.