Well what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. You can romanticize it all you want and justify all you want. My own mother would've been 15 fifty years ago and it was NOT common to be married at 15. Yes people married younger, my mother married at age 18 but 15 no. She grew up in the south and poor. Still not the norm. I KNOW I am right and will stand up for what is right. The law obviously agrees with me. Common sense agrees with me.....
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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Here's more:
Encouraging reporting. Tennessee passed a bill encouraging,
but not requiring, health care providers to report statutory
rape, defined in Tennessee as sexual assault on minors 13
to 15 years old. Reporting is already mandated for children
under 13. Florida passed legislation making sex with children
under 16 child abuse if the offender is 21 or older.Below is proposed legislation considered by 13 other State
legislatures that was not enacted during their most recently
completed session.Expanded scope of laws/raising age of protected minor.
Indiana and Washington considered providing criminal
penalties for men 21 years old and older who have sex with
a minor who is either 16 or 17 years of age, respectively.
Washington would also have required the defendant to be in
a position of authority. Both proposals included restitution.
Hawaii, Mississippi, and Utah considered raising the age of
the minor protected under statutory rape laws. Utah wouldhave raised the age to 18; Mississippi would have raised itfrom 14 to 16 years of age. Hawaii considered several proposals
on raising the age, which is now the lowest in the
country at 14 years.Prosecution grants, penalties for parents’ failure to seek
prosecution. New York and Connecticut considered authorizing
grant programs for statutory rape prosecution.
Connecticut considered imposing criminal penalties against
parents who fail to seek prosecution of a man engaged in a
sexual relationship with their daughter if she was under 16
and knew the offender.Penalties associated with pregnancy. Illinois and Oregon
considered increasing the penalties for statutory rape if a
pregnancy results.Mandatory minimum sentence. Massachusetts considered a
1-year mandatory minimum sentence if the defendant is 18
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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Here is from PDF from staterape handbook:
Raising the age of the minor who is subject to protection by
the law. North Carolina and Pennsylvania raised the age of
the minor—up to 16 years—who is subject to protection
under the criminal unlawful sex laws. North Carolina did so
as part of amendments that created different offenses based
on the age of the minor and the age gap between the minor
and the defendant. Under the new statute, sex with 13- to
15-year-olds is now a crime.Age gaps. Along with raising the age of the minor, North
Carolina and Pennsylvania also imposed age gaps. If the
minor is above a certain age, a crime is committed only
if the defendant is a specified number of years older than
the minor (5 years in North Carolina and 4 years in
Pennsylvania).Impregnation of a minor as a separate offense. Florida
passed several provisions regarding unlawful sex with
minors. Impregnation of a minor is now a separate offense,
and defendants may be liable for child support and related
medical expenses. If paternity is established in cases involving
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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I concur when I read your posts N.Drew. OMG. Utterly shocked and amazed.
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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meangirl
Yes N.Drew your right. All the answers to young girls' problems is to marry them off. That is your answer to everything. If not they will turn to drugs. If not the poor 10 year old prostitute will never realize her dreams.....seriously. Think about what you are saying. You are doing such an injustice to young females. My daughter will have choices as to what she wants to to do. Everyone deserves choices. EVERYONE. You are limiting young females so much with your ignorant reasoning. So very sad.
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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meangirl
N.Drew quit clouding the issue. Here is the issue:
A 20 year old MAN saw a 15 year old freckled face GIRL (his words not mine) and this is what he saw/wanted/desired:
"One of my primary goals when I married this little freckle-faced girl was to do all I knew how to be sure that she could find joy and happiness in her role of wife and mother. I wanted her to be glad she was a woman (especially my woman) and found fulfillment in her role in life. "
Again this is his words, not mine. That is the fact. That is the issue. It is unhealthy. It is wrong. That is why it is against the law. Just be honest with yourself and admit that if a 20 year old MAN was eying your 15 year old daughter to impregnate you would not be a happy camper. The fact that he wrote it and did not expect any backlash is utterly amazing. N.Drew continue to romanticize it all you want. What's wrong is wrong. What's right is right.
The phrase statutory rape is a term used in some legal jurisdictions to describe sexual activities where one participant is below the age required to legally consent to the behavior. [ 1 ] Although it usually refers to adults engaging in sex with minors under the age of consent, [ 1 ] it is a generic term, and very few jurisdictions use the actual term "statutory rape" in the language of statutes. [ 2 ] Different jurisdictions use many different statutory terms for the crime, such as "sexual assault," "rape of a child," "corruption of a minor," "carnal knowledge of a minor," "unlawful carnal knowledge", or simply "carnal knowledge."
Lonewolf wanted to impart carnal knowledge to a 15 year old GIRL as a 20 year old MAN. What more can be said?
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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@ N.Drew:
"What does a 15 year old female want? Few 15 year olds know what they want."
EXACTLY! So what business does a 20 year old MAN have even viewing a 15 year old as a wife and mother and brainwashing her to believe that is her sole purpose in life? If some 20 year old man tried to make my 15 year old daughter a wife and mother.....hmmmmmm he would go to jail. Because it is wrong.
"I think my point is age is relative."-Uh no that is why there are laws......
Would you have been happy if some 20 year old MAN was eyeing your 15 year old daughter to marry?.......
" Imagine one of the very young girls on the street whose pimp is selling her as young as 10 years old. Would not that be her ultimate dream that someone might teach her how wonderful the role of wife and mother might be?"
Uh, I imagine her dream would be to get off of the street and quit being used for sex and abused by her pimp. Maybe her dream would be to go to college and have a profession. Maybe after years of her body not being her own perhaps the idea of being a mom just doesn't appeal to her? How can you even try to justify yourself with this reasoning? I mean really.
"Dear meangirl, why do you look at the dark side of the story?"
Funny, brainwashed JW's ask "apostates" that all the time. If being honest and facing reality is looking at the dark side then guilty as charged. The older I get the more I see that the saying "Ignorance is bliss" is so true.
N. Drew I am sure you are a nice person but I just canot justify pedophilia. It's wrong. It's unhealthy. Sorry but this is one issue I will not bend on.
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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@ N.Drew yes it was 50 yrs ago but that still does not make it right. Alot of injustices were done in Bible times a loooooong time ago but that still does not make it right. Here is the fact. A 20 year old MAN had in his mind he was going to teach a 15 year old GIRL how wonderful her role of wife and mother would be. Does that not sound creepy to you? Sounds very unhealthy. Sounds to me like he is passive aggressive and used the excuse to show a GIRL her wonderful purpose and role as a wife/mother was really his way of keeping her under his thumb. My question, what did this 15 year old GIRL really want? Was she really old enough to decide to become someone's wife? What's right is right. It doesn't matter if it was last week, last year or 50 years ago. Downright creepy.....bleh.
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COs visit sep 2011 - feb 2012
by dozy inapologies if already discussed - the second cos talk discusses 4 "important" areas where jws need to consider the biblical principles involved.. answers on a postcode ( clue - one word - 2 letters - 1st letter is "n" ).
should a true christian?:.
(1) use a social networking website.
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Freakin weirdos.....
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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs,.
down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.
if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.
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meangirl
@ N.Drew:
Think twice!
15 is not too young to marry in some cultures.
For many people secondary school is finished at 16 or 17 years, then they marry.
In some countries (Ethiopia for one) girls are given in arranged marriages as soon as they begin menstruating which for some is as early as ten years young.
I don't think we want to model Ethiopia as a model on how to treat women. They circumcise little girls over there. That is their culture. Is that okay? Women have no rights in Ethiopia. I ask you N.Drew how would you have liked to be given in an arranged marriage as soon as you began menstruating?.......I mean seriously.