Posts by Lillith26

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Do You Believe In "God"?

by minimus in

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i know many people simply think that believing in a "god" is simply ridiculous.

i don't.

i can't necessarily "prove" that god cares, or that god exists but i'll tell you what---when something awful happens i do pray to god and hope for the best..

As I deist I do 99% believe there is a God ( I reserve the last 1% as I am only human and a tad reluctant to say anything is 100% set in stone). I dont believe that God has a personal name or even requires one, is either male or female, interacts with us via prophets or messangers/angels, or is the 'spirit being/3headedthingy/joho/yehoo written about in the bible. I believe I am closer and yet still far away from finding "the truth"- Iam a seeker that made it through the laberinth of religious doctrine to come out the other end wiser, still a bit sore (I was a nicer person before I got the religion bug), but I am now more at peace within myself than I have felt in years. I will admit that giving up the illusion of control is proving to be difficult at times but instead of praying I meditate to commune with god- no words, just emotion.

Even though I do not believe that Jesus was the god/son of god that the bible says he was/is... if he did say most of what was written in the NT then he was right- to understand god we need to be as babes, admit to our true nature, be humble and approch everything with our eyes open as we are but sheep amoung the wolves. Seek and you will find, keep knocking and the door will eventually open.

Here is one from me- if God is love and love is a gift, then this is a gift worth sharing!

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New World Translation, is it the best bible translation?

by littlebuddy in

my jw elder friend said to me that the nwt is the best translation of the bible and that scholars have said as much.

is this true and is it the best?

are there scholars who disagree?.

Lillith26

I will let another website explain- http://www.4jehovah.org/jehovahs-witness-nwt-errors.php

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New World Translation, is it the best bible translation?

by littlebuddy in

my jw elder friend said to me that the nwt is the best translation of the bible and that scholars have said as much.

is this true and is it the best?

are there scholars who disagree?.

Lillith26

Ok Reniaa- in the NWT in Acts- when Stephen was crying out to "god" to be saved he called on Jehovah, but if you read the 'same' passages from your NIV- it will be quite apparent that he was crying out to Jesus! My point here is simple- the name Jehovah does not and was not meant to appear in any of the christian 'greek' scriptures! there was no great apostey (wait are you a JW or a Mormon? lol), the name was not left out by accident/on purpose by 'Satan & his Apostates'! and the new testiment did not need a restoration of the divine name because it was not present in it in the first place!!! ( by the way, the bible gods name was more likely to be pronounced Yahweh in Hebrew- Not Jehovah, so you can smeg off with the whole "but it's pronounced differently all over the world" crap, because if the real God had a name that needed to be spoken it would be universal in nature/unchanging regardless of the language you speak! ).

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Why is the US so afraid of Social Health Care?

by eyeslice in

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i just don't get why the us is so afraid of social health care, and is so opposed to the canadian and british models.

the plain fact is that there are far more americans without access to health care than the combined populations of sweden, norway, denmark and finland.. a measure of the maturity of any society has to be how it sees fit to re-apportion its wealth.. we are quick to criticise african leaders who line their own pockets but leave the masses in poverty but cannot see that blindly following capitalist principles is much the same.

if we live in a wealthy society then part of that wealth has to be put back into society as a whole.. .

Lillith26

For the price of 9 Aussie stamps (at 55cents each) I can buy (using my low income health care card- provided by the Oz Gov) my son's asthma puffers for the month $4:50 and still have change left to buy a pack of gum! I may not 'trust' Mr Rudd personally (hes got them shifty eyes), but I trust the system and it is there to serve the people- thats why they call these guys 'public servants'.

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Why is the US so afraid of Social Health Care?

by eyeslice in

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i just don't get why the us is so afraid of social health care, and is so opposed to the canadian and british models.

the plain fact is that there are far more americans without access to health care than the combined populations of sweden, norway, denmark and finland.. a measure of the maturity of any society has to be how it sees fit to re-apportion its wealth.. we are quick to criticise african leaders who line their own pockets but leave the masses in poverty but cannot see that blindly following capitalist principles is much the same.

if we live in a wealthy society then part of that wealth has to be put back into society as a whole.. .

Lillith26

"Now thats Money For Jam!" lol- had to add that for the Aussies reading this thread.

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Why is the US so afraid of Social Health Care?

by eyeslice in

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friends

i just don't get why the us is so afraid of social health care, and is so opposed to the canadian and british models.

the plain fact is that there are far more americans without access to health care than the combined populations of sweden, norway, denmark and finland.. a measure of the maturity of any society has to be how it sees fit to re-apportion its wealth.. we are quick to criticise african leaders who line their own pockets but leave the masses in poverty but cannot see that blindly following capitalist principles is much the same.

if we live in a wealthy society then part of that wealth has to be put back into society as a whole.. .

Lillith26

What ever happened to the whole- "bring me your poor and sick and I will give them shelter blah blah America is the land of promise and dreams blah blah poooie!" on the Statue of Liberty???

I'm happy to pay my taxes and not get back a whole lot back in my pocket at the end of the day cause I KNOW my hard earned dollar is being put back into the community that has given me so much. Where else in the world looks after it's poor/elderly/sick/new citizens better that Australia???

Man I live in the REAL Land of the Free- free medical/dental/education

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Why is the US so afraid of Social Health Care?

by eyeslice in

jw
friends

i just don't get why the us is so afraid of social health care, and is so opposed to the canadian and british models.

the plain fact is that there are far more americans without access to health care than the combined populations of sweden, norway, denmark and finland.. a measure of the maturity of any society has to be how it sees fit to re-apportion its wealth.. we are quick to criticise african leaders who line their own pockets but leave the masses in poverty but cannot see that blindly following capitalist principles is much the same.

if we live in a wealthy society then part of that wealth has to be put back into society as a whole.. .

Lillith26

In Australia- if your broke, it's ok, plenty of understanding people who have "been there too" that are happy for our country to provide free/or discounted medical treatment to the average Aussie battler! I am happy to pay tax to a gov that will provide treatment to anyone regardless of "do you have insurance???". Come on USA- your turn to learn how to "love thy neighbour" and "do unto others..... etc..." stop bloody whinging and let Obama do the job you voted him in to do!!!!

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The candy that makes us all combine to bring the watchtower down!

by excito-are in

the amount the times i browse the board and read some great posts destroying ideology that was once almost indestructable in jw world.

surely with all those great thoughts we can construct something to really bring down down what is ineffect a man made idea.

this will not happen overnight, but think long term 20 or 30 years.

Lillith26

the crakpots will always be with us (the die hard religionists)- hey the morons/7dayers/JayDubs are still here lol

honestly I think the best thing we can do is help those who actually want to leave, support those that have left, and prevent as many as possible from joining.

Your right- we have the info, the experiance, and the know how to convert, why not just reverse the process and start doing at home studies using a book called- what does the WTB REALLY TEACH? as long as there is an appendix that lists 'usefull' websites (like JWN) and books written by ex JW's for further reading I think something like this could work.

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americans is this true ?

by looloo in

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i was at a first aid course the other day and was told that americans no longer teach mouth to mouth resusatation which i think is quite possible but the reason given was that 1 out of 3 people in the states is either hiv or has hep b or c i find that hard to believe , any ideas ?.

Lillith26

Purps- in Australia you can buy the disposable mouth gaurds that fit snug in your handbag at most pharmacies/drug stores.

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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".

by undercover in

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minimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.

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Lillith26

First off.. Micky- LOLOLOLOLOLOLOl love your reasoning!

Reniaa-

there is a difference between reading your own viewpoints into the scripture rather than reading what they actually say! exactly!- hole in one- bravo- now your getting darl, the WTB does just this, it takes quotes and scriptures from the bible and interprets it to suit their own viewpoints! they then proceed to train people such as yourself to blindly believe them and you are directed to the scriptures they want you see, hence why you can now confidently state;

"The bible tells me Jesus is the SON of God so that is what I believe."

see how easy it's done- I just used your words to tell my side of the story! My my... arn't we both clever!