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  The scientific approach to "holy books"

  by behemot in

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  "remember, always, young man, that science which has become a great power in the last century, has analyzed everything divine handed down to us in the holy books.

  after this cruel analysis the learned of this world have nothing left of all that was sacred.

  but they have only analyzed the parts and overlooked the whole, and indeed their blindness is marvelous.

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  "Deism declares, that the practice of a pure, natural, and uncorrupted virtue, is the essential duty, and constitutes the highest dignity of man; that the powers of man are competent to all the great purposes of human existence; that science, virtue, and happiness are the great objects which ought to awake the mental energies, and draw forth the moral affections of the human race." ~Elihu Palmer
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  I have a little announcement to make.

  by JWoods in

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  jwoods is sixty years old this morning.. btw, the actual name is james.

  james woods.

  my old logon would not work, so i had to make another..

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  Happy Birthday James,
  
  
  
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  Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

  by leavingwt in

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  2. current

  telegraph uk: charles darwin film 'too controversial for religious america'.

  a british film about charles darwin has failed to find a us distributor because his theory of evolution is too controversial for american audiences, according to its producer.

  creation, starring paul bettany, details darwin's "struggle between faith and reason" as he wrote on the origin of species.

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  Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'-

  Next thing we'll see is mass book burnings, women being kept in the homes and made to wear scarfs over their faces.... wait.... didn't your gov just liberate a country from that kind of dick-tato-ship????????????????

  LAND OF THE FREE- my
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  Burning literature (pics) and police called on Snakes :P

  by SnakesInTheTower in

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  2. friends

  so for some time i have been threatening to burn my remaining watchtower literature.

  i had gotten rid of two bookcases worth via a thread or two here, mailing it to various jwders for (hopefully) nefarious purposes.

  i was down to one last 32 gallon rubbermaid container.

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  BURN BOOKS BURN

  We kept nice and warm by our open fireplace this winter- and the WT's & Awake mags add a nice green hue to the flames- Damn it felt good!
  
  
  
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  "Genesis" spankings

  by donny in

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  2. friends

  i recently met a woman here at work (a contractor) and discovered she is an ex-jw.

  eventually we got around to telling why each of us left the religion.

  she said the main reason for her was not doctrines, but because she was tired of the physical and emotional abuse she received.

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  Im speachless...... Hugs for the brave who have spoken up and hugs for those still suffering in silence.
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  Original "Sin" does NOT exist in the Bible.

  by sinis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yep, you heard it.

  original sin does not exist, and has never existed.

  simply put - man was made for slave labor and the "gods" did not want man to ascend.... for your reading enjoyment i present a few scriptures:.

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  Lillith26

  "God" basically made man for slave labor, just as the older Sumerian texts indicate.

  Are you refering to the Anunnaki (self proclaimed 'gods'- the royal 'we' who 'created them', to havest the ORME???)

  I found this an interesting explaination as for why there is a particular reference to the location of Gold in 2 Genesis 2:10-16

  You may be barking up the wronge tree on this forum but I found this article rather interesting and entertaining http://www.halexandria.org/dward185.htm

  But it still does not explain who or why the real G-d is or was or prove much if anything, except it does offer a different explanation for the accounts of Genesis..... part of the Fools Journey, but an essential part for a true seeker IMO
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  Registered sex offender to become ordained minister

  by purplesofa in

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  2. friends

  this is crazy.

  you would think with the garrido case so fresh and what he did after his early release people would learn.purps.

  from christian news reporthttp://christiannewsreport.blogspot.com/2009/09/sex-offender-to-be-ordained.html.

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  Didn't Paul/Saul order the disciple Stephen to be killed? Wasn't he also a Roman Soldier that perhaps in the line of duty 'killed' many people himself? Was he not a sinner? Did Jesus feel him worthy to preach his message after he confessed and was 'washed clean'???????

  Look, I am not defending this guys past actions (Iam a parent and his past actions sicken me!), but if he has 'done the time for the crime' and the state has deemed him 'free' and 'reabilitated' then who the hell are we to judge what he can and cannot do now? if you had made past mistaks, felt bad, appologized, changed you ways and wanted to 'get on with life' , how would you feel about an artical like that being published about you?????

  What ever happend to 'do unto others' and 'love for your neigbours'???? if you would like to be forgiven, should you not also forgive???

  forgiving does not mean forgetting- it is simply to let go of the hate and move in peace, while learning from the past (the past- something you cannot change!)

  If he has changed so much and "converted" to God so fully then he shouldn't have any problems with preaching to people in Jail, other sex offenders and such and NOT to people that don't want him around.

  I mean, there is lots of preaching he can do that makes sure he has ZERO contact with children.

  This is a good sugestion for if the parents of the cong still feel uncomfortable with his past- but we cant make that choice for him.
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  Did I commit the unforgivable sin?

  by AlexHall in

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  2. experiences

  when i was ex-communicated by the jw s a couple of years ago one thought ran through my mind.

  had i commited the unforgivable sin?.

  i have willingly divorced my wife without a scriptual reason for it.

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  Alex Hall,

  En svensk? Trevligt. Trodde jag var den enda här.

  Du oroar dig för mycket om oförlåtlig synd. Du vet att det krävs bra grövre synder än att ger efter för "köttsliga" begär för att aldrig få förlåtelse.

  Dvs om du ff tror att detta är sanningen. Gör du det, så vet du att förlåtelse är inom räckhåll. Tänk på liknelsen om den förlorade sonen.

  Folk har gjort värre saker än så. Oroa dig inte. Och lycka till.

  Huh?
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  Max Hatton's 1965 study on WTS reformatted - PDF

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  during the mid 1960s, we were regularly visited by jehovah's witnesses at the door.

  i needed to know how to manage the situation and i was very fortunate to be given two research studies that exposed the jws errors on the neo-babylonian chronology.

  one study was written by geoff rogerson, from the small country town of western australia called denmark, and the other was by max hatton, who had been a jw for 5 years but had been affected by geoff's work.. .

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  bookmarked. Thankyou Doug
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  A POLL! How long did your "re-evaluation" take?

  by Gayle in

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  from beginning to end, how long did it take you, when you first started your personal questioning and re-evaluating the watchtower organization and concluding that the wts was definitely not true?

  my sister is asking this.

  some of us (who left a couple decades ago - pre-internet) are saying it took about 10 years on average.

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  I only studied for 2 years- took one week of hard researching (online) and two weeks to GET OUT FOR GOOD!!!!

  I still think prevention is the best cure- KH's should sport the same warning lables as smoke packets!!