it was brought up in another thread that paul got his roman citizenship by serving as a soldier for at least 20 years.
this was the only way a non-italian non-roman born could do it.. i remember an illustration - in one of the big books, like "things in which it is impossible for god to lie" or "life everlasting" where saul of tarsus is pictured holding the robes of those who are stoning christians to death.. he is dressed as a roman soldier with a metal breast plate.
anybody have a scan of this?.
I'm fairly certain that buying your citizenship was only open to those who were apart of nations who were incredebly loyal to Rome. A pure blood Jew becoming a citizen is unlikely.
Also, since the Jews were famous for their hatred of Rome, it would be odd for any Jewish person to attempt to join the Auxilium(even if they were allowed to do so).
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
"I believe one of Paul's parents was a Roman citizen (father?)"
Evidence?
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
If the WTS actually said that he was a member of the Roman legion then we'd have something to go on.
Though the idea of a Jewish Pharisee joining sounds incredibly absurd.
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
I'm sorry, but I've got to call bullshit on the whole "Paul appealed the Romans because he was a citizen" thing.
Citizenship wasn't fucking handed out like candy to non-romans. You had to earn it by at least 20 years of military service.
If Paul wasn't a citizen (and spoiler alert: he wasn't) then how could he have even appealed anything to the Roman government?
i know many people simply think that believing in a "god" is simply ridiculous.
i don't.
i can't necessarily "prove" that god cares, or that god exists but i'll tell you what---when something awful happens i do pray to god and hope for the best..
If by "God" you mean an omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent intelligence that created the universe and still exists now, then no. I don't.
think it through..
It's possible to be a cultural Christian who's also an Agnostic.
his motto is "yes we can!
" has he done what you expected?
any concerns?
ITT: People who believe Obama is somehow more worthy of impeachment than Bush was.
his motto is "yes we can!
" has he done what you expected?
any concerns?
"Of course I am. I have a great career and earn a nice living.
I'm glad my hard earned money is being given to lazy ass people."
You are so right! People like my 70-year-old grandparents that can't afford healthcare.
You wouldn't want to pay for those lazy ass people, now would you.
his motto is "yes we can!
" has he done what you expected?
any concerns?
I heard that Obama has a legion of undead Gary Buseys that he plans on releasing upon the unsuspecting public.
his motto is "yes we can!
" has he done what you expected?
any concerns?
"I think Obama's true colors are shining through. He's a socialist."
Do I really need to explain why Socialism isn't automatically a dirty word?
I'm getting really tired of these dumbass rightests spewing their bullshit.
I've got news for everyone who's either on the "Hate Obama" or "Love Obama" side: he hasn't done anything awesome or terrible yet. Calm the flying fuck down.
